Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (491 mails)

[Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@xxxxxx>]

On Monday 06 February 2012, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> On 05/02/12 20:20, Ruediger Meier wrote:
> > On Sunday 05 February 2012, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> > > On 05/02/12 03:46, Michael Davies wrote:
> > > > You create a barrier with those who aim to develop in future.
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > > Finally, Lennart Poettering's attitude to other developers is
> > > > frankly quite abusive -
> > >
> > > See, this is what criticism of systemd is all about, personal
> > > attacks, same thing about the /usr merge.
> >
> > Yes it's a personal attack. But he deserves it. Why the hell should
> > I not blame him if I don't like what he's doing?
> >
> > Why Poettering is developing on posix/gnu/linux/distros at all?
> > Because it's good old 70's transparent stuff. The stuff he doesn't
> > like...
> > The fact that we have these standards, easy concepts, shell
> > scripts, etc. is the only fact why he is even able to develop his
> > crap.
>
> Sorry that's utter bullshit dogma.  "I don't like it" it is not
> technical criticism, and personal attacks against one developer
> discredits your point completely.

> The lack of "books" is also not a technical argument, neither is what
> languages someone use to develop a program or not.

You are missing the point again.
The language statement "shell/regexp is evil" comes from Poettering
himself not from me. And I don't like that statement - even if "don't 
like" may not be "technical criticism". There is no need to do 
technical criticism on such idiotic statements.

With open/transparent I mean that a user (non-developer) is able to 
debug/trace his system. In other words that the user is able to _use_ 
it's system.


> Oh and BTW.. some systemd components are written in Vala, (C#-like
> language which is then translated and compiled into C)
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