Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (368 mails)

[Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@xxxxxxxx>]

Le mercredi 25 janvier 2012 à 11:24 +0100, Peter Czanik a écrit :
> On 01/25/2012 10:22 AM, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > Le mardi 24 janvier 2012 à 21:09 +0100, Peter Czanik a écrit :
> > > On 01/24/2012 03:02 PM, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> > > > Le mardi 24 janvier 2012 à 14:51 +0100, Peter Czanik a écrit :
> > > > > On 01/24/2012 02:43 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > > > > > > journal is part of systemd and will be enabled.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It doesn't change anything to *syslog*, compared to older systemd
> > > > > > > release : as long as *syslog* implementation were using .service and
> > > > > > > socket activated (this should be ok since 12.1, see
> > > > > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/syslog but I'm not 
> > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > data there is up to date with journal ), they will still work as
> > > > > > > expected, with data from journal being forwarded to *syslog* through
> > > > > > > syslog socket.
> > > > > > So, what you're saying is that journal is an additional logger that
> > > > > > will run in parallel with the "normal" syslog.
> > > > >      From my understanding, "normal" syslog is not installed any more by
> > > > > default. It is only needed if central log collection is necessary, as
> > > > > journal is a local only solution. Or if advanced features, like
> > > > > launching external applications, logging to a database, parsing
> > > > > messages, etc. are necessary.
> > > > It is still installed by default, nothing has changed in that regard
> > > > (unless somebody changed default openSUSE installed without tell us ;)
> > > Strange. From my understanding journal was developed to make normal
> > > syslog redundant on most machines. Does it also mean, that messages will
> > > be archived twice, once by journal in its secure log database and also
> > > by syslog text files?
> > Well, I'd be happy to not ship a syslog implementation by default, but
> > not until we have removed sysvinit (otherwise, people booting on
> > sysvinit won't have any logs..).
> Could it be solved by adding syslog as a dependency to sysvinit-init? 

I guess it could be a possibility.

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Frederic Crozat <fcrozat@xxxxxxxx>
SUSE

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