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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Human readable, what is that? (was [12.1] massive data loss in /var/tmp/)
- From: Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:31:23 -0300
- Message-id: <CAGTBQpaPfKGs3zkrJ4jisqjpXQKYx2dm7YRNAb_3bLmQjZzH0Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sad
Well, to put the discussion on-topic, from the comments everywhere, if
systemd is pushed right now and sysvinit removed, lots of sysadmins
will care. Especially sysadmins that value the overall openSUSE
distribution, since it *is* valuable, and one misbehaving system,
especially this critical system, can kill it on the datacenter.
So yes, somebody cares.
I wouldn't mind adopting systemd on a desktop, maybe enhancing systemd
in the process, through bug reports and perhaps patches (maybe, if
they're in the mood of accepting enhancements, which they don't seem
to). On a server it's a different tune. So I wouldn't be surprised if
datacenters rejected such a release.
0.9°C? Really?
Cool ;-)
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Claudio Freire wrote:
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Greg Freemyer
<greg.freemyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Non-contributing users (those that install) seem
to carry very little weight with the openSUSE project currently.
Really?
Such as it is at the moment, yes. Even users who _do_ contribute seem
to carry very little weight with the openSUSE project. The issue is that
there is no such entity: "the opensuse Project". Like I wrote on
opensuse-general not long ago, at best we have cooperation, certainly
not orchestration.
Sad
Does the project's direction and goals stay the same if all servers
move out of openSUSE?
Does anybody care?
Well, to put the discussion on-topic, from the comments everywhere, if
systemd is pushed right now and sysvinit removed, lots of sysadmins
will care. Especially sysadmins that value the overall openSUSE
distribution, since it *is* valuable, and one misbehaving system,
especially this critical system, can kill it on the datacenter.
So yes, somebody cares.
I wouldn't mind adopting systemd on a desktop, maybe enhancing systemd
in the process, through bug reports and perhaps patches (maybe, if
they're in the mood of accepting enhancements, which they don't seem
to). On a server it's a different tune. So I wouldn't be surprised if
datacenters rejected such a release.
Per Jessen, Zürich (0.9°C)
0.9°C? Really?
Cool ;-)
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