Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (564 mails)

[Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

> On 28/12/11 16:01, Per Jessen wrote:
> > Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> >
> > > On 28/12/11 11:49, Michal Kubeček wrote:
> > >
> > > > On
> > > > the other hand, it brings a lot of problems and complicates things
> > > > that used to be simple and easy.
> > >
> > > Yeah, simple and easy... did you mean obscure, undocumented, racy
> > > and impossible to verify in large scale ?
> >
> > Hasn't been much of a problem so far.  Or do you have a list of
> > applicable bug reports?
>
> Try the following, create a program that is able to figure out what
> exactly init scripts do, if it really is what the packager intended.
>
> Also try auditing all uses of /tmp , sed , awk, etc ensuring people
> are using them correctly.

Like I said, none of this has been much of an issue so far - I agree it
could be desirable to verify some of this, but that is a pretty poor
argument in this context.

> > > Some features aren't provided at all and
> > > > when people point it out, the answer is "you shouldn't want them
> > > > because systemd doesn't provide them"
> > >
> > > Well, people is asking for fairly ridiculous things.
> >
> > Oh yeah. Like output from init scripts. Yup.
>
> Im not talking about incompatibilities or bugs, I am talking about
> requests that ask for systemd to manage services that do not provide
> proper exit status codes.

It is the other way around - systemd wants/needs to manage those
services, but somehow systemd does not accommodate them. (and they were
there first). 


-- 
Per Jessen, Zürich (0.7°C)

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