Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (564 mails)

[Sebastian Freundt <freundt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

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> On 28/12/11 16:01, Per Jessen wrote:
> > Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> >
> > > On 28/12/11 11:49, Michal Kubeček wrote:
> > >
> > > > On
> > > > the other hand, it brings a lot of problems and complicates things
> > > > that used to be simple and easy.
> > >
> > > Yeah, simple and easy... did you mean obscure, undocumented, racy and
> > > impossible to verify in large scale ?
> >
> > Hasn't been much of a problem so far.  Or do you have a list of
> > applicable bug reports?
>
> Try the following, create a program that is able to figure out what
> exactly init scripts do, if it really is what the packager intended.
>
> Also try auditing all uses of /tmp , sed , awk, etc ensuring people
> are using them correctly.

I think that's where your misconception comes from: Not you, the packager,
have to decide what I, the user, want to do.  I want automounted NFS
shares, they worked before.  The shell script just mounted rpc_pipefs and
started the idmapd, I can do that manually if need be.

Systemd fails doing either, and on top of that it also shuts down the
network for some obscure reasons.  Did *you* intend that?  If so why?  If
not, why is it so hard to fix if everything is clear, documented, non-racy
and possible?

Sebastian

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