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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Human readable, what is that? (was [12.1] massive data loss in /var/tmp/)
  • From: Michal Kubeček <mkubecek@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:49:29 +0100
  • Message-id: <2209013.t39YGatkfo@alaris>
On Wednesday 28 of December 2011 11:24EN, Claudio Freire wrote:
2011/12/28 Michal Kubeček <mkubecek@xxxxxxx>:
Face it, systemv will be gone at some point and ...

Once again: is this already decided? If yes, who decided it and
when? If not, please don't write things like this as if it was a
decision already made.

I think the whole community decided.

Certainly not the _whole_ community.

Tons of distros are moving away from sysvinit, and I can't blame them.

I still take systemd in 12.1 as an experiment. An experiment that showed
that if there ever will be time to replace normal init with systemd, it
is definitely not now.

I agree with the move. systemd goes forward in some areas.

I don't. So far, I haven't seen any (useful) feature that systemd would
provide that couldn't be with much less effort achived without it. On
the other hand, it brings a lot of problems and complicates things that
used to be simple and easy. Some features aren't provided at all and
when people point it out, the answer is "you shouldn't want them because
systemd doesn't provide them". Saving (possibly) few seconds of boot
time is not worth the trouble.

Michal Kubeček

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