Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (564 mails)

[Sebastian Freundt <freundt@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Cristian Rodríguez <crrodriguez@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

[snip]
> > I still propose that we drop systemd completely
>
> That's sums up all arguments I have heard agaisnt systemd "I do not
> like it", "it much work", etc..googling sadly reveals zero reasonable
> technical arguments against it, all you see falls into the following
> categories (and I googled a lot. before jumping into this ship)
>
> - Appeals to tradition --> we do things this way and works.
>
> - ad hominems --> Lennart is an ass, blabla..
>
> - ad portability --> it is not portable therefore sucks, that the most
> utter bullshit frecuently heard from the BSD crowd.
>
> Portability in reality means "A whole bunch of code and ugly hacks to
> make it work in your obscure system" (just take a look at openssl in
> example)
>
> - People that claim cgroups are ugly/broken, wrong choir !! that's
> something to complain to kernel developers.
>
> - In general lack of understanding what systemd really does.

Interesting that any discussion always revolves back to systemd.  Might I
add another category:

- Hordes of unfixed bugs, many of them so major no production environment
  with a risk manager will dare even try this thing in its current state.

Sebastian


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