Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (564 mails)

[Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a@xxxxxx>]

On Tuesday 06 December 2011, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
> Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@xxxxxxx> writes:
> > Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> > > Apparently, 12.1 has added /var/tmp/ to TMP_DIRS_TO_CLEAR in
> > > /etc/sysconfig/cron. I was quite surprised when I found out today
> > > that I've lost a few GB of data, which used to be safe there.
> >
> > $ tail -2 /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf
> > d /tmp 1777 root root 10d
> > d /var/tmp 1777 root root 30d
> >
> > That tells systemd to clear files older than 10 resp 30 days in
> > those directories. systemd does not honor TMP_DIRS_TO_CLEAR.
>
> I'm going to add this to the release notes:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735027.

Note that /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/*.conf
contains systemd's default config only (should not be edited).

Users can change it in
/etc/tmpfiles.d/*.conf
but AFAIR this direcectory does not exist per default yet.

see man tmpfiles.d

> The behavior per se is ok, but in the update case, when it does not
> honor old settings, I consider it as a bug.  Are there plans to fix
> this?

> And, of course, it would have been a bug, if default sysv/sysconfig
> and systemd related settings would differ...

If possible I would fix it in 12.1 by adding /etc/tmpfiles.d/*
which does nothing else than avoiding conflicts between
/etc/sysconfig/cron and /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/*.conf.

> Do we plan to remove 
> these variables from /etc/sysconfig/cron or will we propagate the
> values from sysconfig to /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf?

As said in 12.1 it has to be fixed.

In Factory I would simply drop the idea of having interchangable 
sysvinit and systemd. Users should know that using systemd or sysvinit 
results in completely different behavior.
By considering this statement packagers could use systemd features 
without thinking about sysvinit. Playing around systemd should IMO not 
affect sysvinit and vice versa.
For this particular case it would mean that using systemd should 
use /etc/tmpfiles.d/*.conf and sysvinit uses /etc/sysconfig/cron only.


cu,
Rudi
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