On Tuesday 22 November 2011, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am 22.11.2011 10:43, schrieb Michal Kubeček:
On 2011-11-21 16:26:52, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
For thoses I saw telling that they don't use systemd, prepare yourself to cry. We offer sysvinit as a fallback this time (12.1) nothing prove that will be the case in future releases.
Well, this is important. So where should one look to be able to vote against such decision so that it's not "we already decided and you have to live with it" again? Making systemd default in its current state was bad but removing sysvinit would be much worse.
This is not about voting. This is about people taking care sysvinit does not bitrot while systemd gets all the development and bug fixes for things people see.
Yup, that's the ideal way to go.
You can vote as much as you like, but in open source projects those that pull stronger on one end win most of the times. Unless of course enough people find themselves pulling at the other end.
The problem is pulling at the sysvinit end can't be much more than just crying, voting whatever. Sysvinit works. It's complete. There is almost nothing to be done to keep this state. I'm not against systemd generally. Seeing systemd packagers breaking sysvinit support or creating endless system wide dependencies that's my problem. How could I try to prevent this actively? Should I pull the systemd end too to get it into an (IMO) better direction just because I don't want use systemd? That's paradox. cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org