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Re: [opensuse-factory] Runlevels in 12.1?
- From: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:12:58 +0100
- Message-id: <20111113231258.xjbej6u8jookcoo8@imap.suse.de>
On Ne 13. November 2011, 18:52:18 CET, Per Jessen wrote:
No, I'm certainly not opposed to progress as such. But the progress must
bring something positive. I welcomed udev, I've been using iproute2 since
the days most Linux users didn't know it existed (well, maybe most don't
even today but that's another story).
On the other hand, I criticized zmd in 10.1, I criticized having KDE4 as
default when it was far from ready and I do criticize having systemd now
because it is about as ready as KDE4 was when it first appeared in
OpenSuSE. It is buggy, it is poorly documented, configuration is much
more complicated, it makes diagnostic of the boot process harder. What
does it give me? A bit faster boot (or maybe only makes it look faster).
I'm sorry, I can't see this as a good deal. And unlike with KDE4, most
of the problems are not going to disappear. Bugs will be fixed eventually,
documentation is going to be written but complicated configuration,
complicated diagnostic and incompatibility with third party projets will
stay.
Michal Kubeček
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Nah, systemd brings lots of useful features - you guys are just being
reactionary and opposed to progress. :-)
No, I'm certainly not opposed to progress as such. But the progress must
bring something positive. I welcomed udev, I've been using iproute2 since
the days most Linux users didn't know it existed (well, maybe most don't
even today but that's another story).
On the other hand, I criticized zmd in 10.1, I criticized having KDE4 as
default when it was far from ready and I do criticize having systemd now
because it is about as ready as KDE4 was when it first appeared in
OpenSuSE. It is buggy, it is poorly documented, configuration is much
more complicated, it makes diagnostic of the boot process harder. What
does it give me? A bit faster boot (or maybe only makes it look faster).
I'm sorry, I can't see this as a good deal. And unlike with KDE4, most
of the problems are not going to disappear. Bugs will be fixed eventually,
documentation is going to be written but complicated configuration,
complicated diagnostic and incompatibility with third party projets will
stay.
Michal Kubeček
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