On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:36 AM, "Brian K. White" <brian@aljex.com> wrote:
I get all any user needs to get. If the distribution sucks, it sucks. You can't tell a user who pops the cd in, tries to use the system, and encounters all those problems, that it's their fault.
Those branding packages *break some systems*.
I also taboo them because I CAN NOT have grub loading gfxboot and I CAN NOT have the kernel trying to switch into graphical console modes, and I CAN NOT have any xdm-alike trying to start up at all. I can not have these things happen even the very first time so I can't let the installer install whatever and then go in and adjust config files to disable the problem actions. I will not be able to go in and do anything at all the instant any of those things happens the very first time. So I have to prevent them from even being installed in the first place during initial install, that way even if I miss one of the several manual things I have to do during text-only installs, and say, the menu.lst is left with the gfxboot line in it and uncommented, if it's not installed the line becomes harmless since the file isn't actually there and the console doesn't get killed and I can resume the install without having to boot the install media from the network to use it as a repair platform.
When I remove the gfxboot, splashy and bootsplash packages, the branding packages "require" them, so the branding packages end up going too.
It not our fault for needing to prevent these things, it's the distros fault for being so thoughtlessly assembled that we have to go through such contortions just to get installed.
Either that or suse should just stop all pretense of being a suitable OS for servers.
During install, if you choose minimal server install, it seems to do what you want. Or you can choose minimal X and then uncheck gfxboot, splashy, and bootsplash. I find opensuse to work perfectly for my servers, especially with the ease of pulling in OBS packages that I build specially for my needs. -David-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org