Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (1564 mails)

[Nelson Marques <nmo.marques@xxxxxxxxx>]

2011/11/9 Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> On 09.11.2011 11:23, Sascha Peilicke wrote:
>
> > I believe we really should make Thunderbird the default choice. Bonus
> > points are:
>
>
> We should simply revert the mistake of making KDE the default desktop.

Amen to that "brother"!




> It is funny that most bugs people report here are KDE bugs. I have not
> experienced those either with XFCE nor with GNOME3.
>
> Obviously (I don't dare to test) this KDE stuff has bitrotted severely
> over the years.
>
> > It's basically the same like:
> >
> > * We ship Firefox instead of Konquerer/rekonq and Epiphany
> > * We ship LibreOffice instead of KOffice and Gnome-Office
> > * We ship systemd (and sysvinit for an interim period) instead of
> > upstart, bsd-init and all the others.
> >
> > These where all strong decisions, but they show a certain vision for
> > openSUSE. Having a vision is surely better that
> > we-package-whatever-crap-upstream-invents (tm). Vision means focus,
> > focus means concentrating on doing one thing good instead everything in
> > a mediocre way.
> >
> > This is the exact same story for
> > KPackageKit/Apper/the-thing-that-was-developed-two-seconds-before-release 
> > (tm).
> > Instead of being religions, we should have just shipped nm-applet and
> > enjoyed a working NetworkManager ;-)
>
>
> Oh - and bluetoth-applet instead of the kde bluetooth non-working stuff.
> xfce4-power-manager instead of the kde powermanagement non-working stuff.
>
> Well, not much would be left over from KDE probably ;-)
> --
> Stefan Seyfried
>
> "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!"
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