At Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:26:07 -0500, Jon Nelson wrote:
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Takashi Iwai
wrote: At Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:50:47 +0200, Petr Gajdos wrote:
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 02:07:52PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Here is an counterexample of my previous examples (again left hintfull and right hintslight).
Hmm, a wrong attachment?
Yes :-D.
Yeah, in this case, the glyph are slightly shrunk vertically, so looks uglier indeed.
OTOH, the hintfull has still a better visibility than hintslight. For example, look at the letter "m" in the right side (check it via xmag or such). The whole glyph is filled with gray pixels. So if this letter alone is picked up without texts, you can't say what it is.
causes the small font in the search input on opensuse.org render "better" for me.
would be a good compromise. (I guess we can change the style even in the point size condition?)
I hope yes, see conf.avail/20-unhint-small-vera.conf and test on pixelsize in it.
Good, we have many choices :)
I have two concerns - on my laptop, I had to go back to light because full was fuzzy. Perhaps it's because I'm using DejaVu Sans? As has been amply demonstrated here, hinting /does/ appear to be working in 11.4 at least and what works for one person might not work for another.
First of all, you need to define the verb "work" in this context. It's about the visibility / clearness of each font glyph, or it's about how well the original form is kept, or overall readability in small size, etc? If hintfull gives fuzzier (= less clear) output than hintslight, as I mentioned, something must be wrong. It's a bug either in the font design or in the render. In such a case, we need to fix it or give a workaround for this font, i.e. font-specific config. And, this is not what works for one person but not for others. It must be reproducible on every machine. It's no art. It's just a program.
Changing the hint level based on the font family or size (by default) seems a somewhat dangerous road to go down. On the other hand, if it provides benefit to users without those users having to fiddle and twiddle config files, that's a win. Just my two cents.
Which limitation rule to be applied is still a question, but in general, changing the hint for specific matching rules is rather a safer way to go. It'd need more work, though, because it can change only the confirmed stuff. thanks, Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org