Hi Stefan, Thanks for the feedback, a few comments: Le dimanche 16 octobre 2011, à 13:42 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
Hi,
now I actually tried GNOME 3.2 (with openSUSE Factory GNOME Live CD).
First - it does not start without "nomodeset" on an intel 855GM. Is there a boot parameter to force GNOME fallback mode without disabling modeset?
Even the GDM fails "something has happened - please contact your system administrator". It should try fallback mode if it cannot start the blingbling mode.
There's no way to disable the fallback mode with a boot parameter. I'm not sure it's the right way to do things, although we could probably support that. FWIW, there is a small tool being run to detect whether the fallback mode has to be used or not. There's a blacklist mechanism in there, and we could add Intel 830-865 there (I see Fedora does this).
On 12.10.2011 19:34, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le mercredi 12 octobre 2011, à 19:28 +0200, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
On 10.10.2011 11:31, Vincent Untz wrote:
- you cannot change the insanely big height of the panel
The height depends on the font size (make your font smaller in gnome-tweak-tool) and your theme (unlucky, we don't ship any other theme right now for GTK+ 3).
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So now advanced critcism:
- even with unuably small fonts (scaling factor to 0.5), the panel is still the same size. I can now set the panel to 19 pixels (still at least 3 too much ;) but it stays at ~32 (it only gets bigger if I increase the size above 32 pixels. I guess this is because of the Icons. I have no idea how a non-superexpert user would change this. My customers (family) would kill me for such a setting: HUGE icons / panels and unreadable fonts.
Interesting, that's a bug caused by the user menu. Will see if I can fix it.
- the same for the window decoration: it shrinked a little bit with the unreadable font, but it is still at least two times too big. I guess it is about ~25 pixels, but it should be <= 12.
Just tried it, feels okay to me. Smaller would make the buttons hard to reach, and I think that's the upstream rationale for this.
- you cannot resize the tweak tool window, but the contents do not fit into the window.
Yeah, this is a known issue: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649520
- alt-right mouse does not resize windows
Did this work under GNOME 2?
This is all in fallback mode. And this is way worse than GNOME2 ever was. And GNOME2 is still much worse than XFCE which "just works". You can even do "maximize horizontally" and "maximize vertically" like in every other desktop environment ;-)
You can have that by editing your keybindings in the system settings and add a keybinding for those actions. (I regularly use maximize vertically) [...]
Oh -- requiring tracker to be installed (since a recent update, I can no longer uninstall it and I need to check if it is actually started and if I have to get rid of it somehow) is almost as "funny" as the old beagle or KDE4's insistence on starting up nepomuk, strigi, akonadi or similar crap.
You can disable tracker in its preferences. Any reason you have to get rid of it if it's not running? (I see there's actually a packaging bug where the main package is brought in because of some Requires -- without the bug, you would be able to only get the tracker libraries). Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org