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Re: [opensuse-factory][OT] Religious and political views in packages
Forwarded to -offtopic where it belongs. Hopefully responses will only
go there. Please delete -factory from any responses to this.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2011/09/12 15:00 (GMT-0400) Brian K. White composed:

By now the only thing science claims to "know" is that that
probably nothing we use as mental place-holders right now will turn out
to be the whole real story later.

That so-called "knowledge" too is still mere hypothesis...

....literally anything _might_ be true in an infinite
and unknowable universe...

..."demonstrate" is a technical term which
requires employing the scientific method

Not every scientific method has yet been discovered or recognized as such.
Some demonstrations witnessed by many, recorded in writing, many have chosen
to disbelieve at least in part because they didn't witness personally.

Had you espoused your anti-religion beliefs among the 'deluded' Americans
responsible for creation of and who signed the United States Declaration of
Independence, which reads in part "We hold these truths to be
self-evident...that they are endowed by their Creator...", or those who
penned the language of the First Amendment to the Constitution, which reads
in part "Congress shall make no law ... [religion], or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof", assuredly it would have been you dismissed as ridiculous
or idiot.

Many intelligent people find spontaneous life generation from inorganic
matter evolving into human beings with ability have opinions and communicate
them to other humans via writing, and to humans and other species via speech
and gestures, and to have discovered that chromosomes 220 million base pairs
long exist, and what any of them do, to be more ludicrous than creation by a
Creator with power and knowledge far greater than feeble human brains can
fathom.

I for one find evolution from non-living matter all the way to thinking and
reasoning humans, and for the Earth to have remained in appropriate relation
to the Sun long enough for that to take place, to be the most preposterous
supposition implied within this thread.

That we can think and communicate, and that gravity exists to keep us on the
ground and the Earth in that narrow life-supporting band of distance
encircling the Sun, and that plants extract from soil those nutrients to
convert via energy from sunlight to the food our bodies need to sustain, are
to me daily demonstration and proof of a higher power, a Creator, which I
believe to be the God of the Bible, a belief which was shared by most of the
creators of the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the
longest lived existing government on this planet.
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"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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