Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (1264 mails)

[Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Monday, September 12, 2011 06:41:30 AM Brian K. White wrote:
> On 9/10/2011 4:00 PM, John McInnes wrote:
> > On 09/09/2011 08:33 PM, Brian K. White wrote:
> > > > While I don't care much for that particular bedtime story, others may
> > > > well be
> > > > offended by biased religious views (even more so if their's differing).
> > >
> > > Religious apps? I have no use for them either, and although I'm
> > > absolutely atheist and have quite firm and quite unflattering opinions
> > > of anyone who actually believes any of that nonsense, or even allows
> > > for it's possibility in any real way,
> > >
> > >
> > > Even though I think a disbelief in any religion is fundamentally
> > > different than believing one religion vs another, and would argue that
> > > it's perfectly valid to criticize any believer and treat them exactly
> > > as you would treat anyone else who has demonstrated that they are
> > > insane or incompetent or out of touch in any other way,
> >
> > So billions of people are insane?
> > [revised a few times to be more diplomatic.. ---> ] Hmm but isn't
> > Atheism is a religion all its own, with leaders, followers, mantra,
> > faith, and yes bigots?? I know some rabid Richard Dawkins followers, the
> > irony is always lost on them.
> >
> > I know this has little to do with opensuse-factory, but I didn't start
> > the name calling. Actually this goes much farther then just name calling
> > one person..
> >
> > -johnm
>
> Those who "believe" can't really do anything else but project their
> faith based lack-of-reasoning reasoning on others, thus they don't see
> the fundamental distinction between believing in X vs believing in Y vs
> not believing in anything.
>
> They can't understand that it is not required to believe in anything in
> order to have structure, process, civilization, ethics/morals, even
> hope, even ceremony. They can't even conceive of any other motivation or
> explanation for ones actions. They can't explain anyones actions any
> other way than to assume that any set of rules anyone follows is just
> their religion, no different than any other religion.
>
> Of course billions of people are insane. The number hardly matters, only
> the facts. Billions of people are all human and so of course many have
> the same innate weaknesses. At one time everyone "knew" the world was
> flat. And they were, every single one, wrong.
This is not productive. You are welcome to your views, as is anyone. We do not 
require anything but technical skill to enable our project goals. We are not a 
platform for religion, or for anti religious sentiment or propaganda. 
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