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[opensuse-factory] WINE problems, and why it matters.
- From: Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:48:24 -0700
- Message-id: <201108261148.24805.roger.luedecke@gmail.com>
So, Blizzard sent me some promo time and I figured I would
go ahead and use it. Why not? AppDB lists it as Platinum or
Gold, so its sure to work. And the installer runs beautifully, the
launcher renders correctly. But once I click play, it doesn't
actually launch the game... a game with a reputation for
working really well with WINE. This is hardly the first problem
I have had with gold and platinum rated games... in fact, none
I have bothered with ever actually worked. The few times I
have tried software not in the AppDB, and that worked... I
wasn't able to add my findings to their DB since the version of
WINE shipping with openSUSE is deprecated. I even installed
the CVS builds from the WINE CVS repo. Still not working as it
should. So the question is, what is the problem with our WINE
implementation? And is there any chance a massive distro
like ours could reach out to the WINE Developers to make
sure when WINE ships in 12.1 it will perform better? To the
credit of the experience of using WINE on openSUSE vs.
Ubuntu (or Fedora if I remember correctly) we at least don't
have the paranoia of CD/DVD executable media that makes it
necessary to copy all files to HD just in order to use them. As
far as that goes, we definately did better.
Many of you may consider WINE to be a non-concern. I must
however object that though it is not essential to the
progression of our core technologies, it is very useful to the
person checking it out; the casual user who still enjoys
games, and has no ideological problem with using some
proprietary software. It is hard for me to sell openSUSE to
friends of mine who hate Windows, but still love games. "Well,
there is WINE which will allow you (in theory) to run many
Windows software titles... you can check the AppDB at
WINEhq. But, honestly I find it rarely works quite as it says in
the AppDB." Not a great way to get gamers to dump
Windows.
Roger Luedecke
openSUSE Ambassador
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go ahead and use it. Why not? AppDB lists it as Platinum or
Gold, so its sure to work. And the installer runs beautifully, the
launcher renders correctly. But once I click play, it doesn't
actually launch the game... a game with a reputation for
working really well with WINE. This is hardly the first problem
I have had with gold and platinum rated games... in fact, none
I have bothered with ever actually worked. The few times I
have tried software not in the AppDB, and that worked... I
wasn't able to add my findings to their DB since the version of
WINE shipping with openSUSE is deprecated. I even installed
the CVS builds from the WINE CVS repo. Still not working as it
should. So the question is, what is the problem with our WINE
implementation? And is there any chance a massive distro
like ours could reach out to the WINE Developers to make
sure when WINE ships in 12.1 it will perform better? To the
credit of the experience of using WINE on openSUSE vs.
Ubuntu (or Fedora if I remember correctly) we at least don't
have the paranoia of CD/DVD executable media that makes it
necessary to copy all files to HD just in order to use them. As
far as that goes, we definately did better.
Many of you may consider WINE to be a non-concern. I must
however object that though it is not essential to the
progression of our core technologies, it is very useful to the
person checking it out; the casual user who still enjoys
games, and has no ideological problem with using some
proprietary software. It is hard for me to sell openSUSE to
friends of mine who hate Windows, but still love games. "Well,
there is WINE which will allow you (in theory) to run many
Windows software titles... you can check the AppDB at
WINEhq. But, honestly I find it rarely works quite as it says in
the AppDB." Not a great way to get gamers to dump
Windows.
Roger Luedecke
openSUSE Ambassador
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