So, Blizzard sent me some promo time and I figured I would go ahead and use it. Why not? AppDB lists it as Platinum or Gold, so its sure to work. And the installer runs beautifully, the launcher renders correctly. But once I click play, it doesn't actually launch the game... a game with a reputation for working really well with WINE. This is hardly the first problem I have had with gold and platinum rated games... in fact, none I have bothered with ever actually worked. The few times I have tried software not in the AppDB, and that worked... I wasn't able to add my findings to their DB since the version of WINE shipping with openSUSE is deprecated. I even installed the CVS builds from the WINE CVS repo. Still not working as it should. So the question is, what is the problem with our WINE implementation? And is there any chance a massive distro like ours could reach out to the WINE Developers to make sure when WINE ships in 12.1 it will perform better? To the credit of the experience of using WINE on openSUSE vs. Ubuntu (or Fedora if I remember correctly) we at least don't have the paranoia of CD/DVD executable media that makes it necessary to copy all files to HD just in order to use them. As far as that goes, we definately did better. Many of you may consider WINE to be a non-concern. I must however object that though it is not essential to the progression of our core technologies, it is very useful to the person checking it out; the casual user who still enjoys games, and has no ideological problem with using some proprietary software. It is hard for me to sell openSUSE to friends of mine who hate Windows, but still love games. "Well, there is WINE which will allow you (in theory) to run many Windows software titles... you can check the AppDB at WINEhq. But, honestly I find it rarely works quite as it says in the AppDB." Not a great way to get gamers to dump Windows. Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org