On 08/16/2011 02:09 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 02:04:16PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Steven Sroka <sroka.steven@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15 August 2011 16:16, Kim Leyendecker <kimleyendecker@hotmail.de> wrote: Am 15.08.2011 21:20, schrieb Roger Luedecke:
However as an Ambassador I must emphasize that these sort of anomalies, no matter how technically minor will shake the confidence of someone trying the new release. The things that we may consider minor, a new user will consider to be clues to the overall experience and what to expect; this is especially true for new users coming from Windows. Thus we lose a potential asset to the community in favor of some other distro (usually Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, or Mandriva). Frankly, I would rather we be a bit late on releasing 12.1 than to release it as finished with the same sort of issues 11.4 showed.
Sorry, I don´t get it. Where we are loosing users? And why?
And the releasing point of 12.1 is actually the right choose. If we release it later, there won´t be time enough between KDE 4.7 and 4.8.
So, could you please explain the quoted post to me?
I think Roger (generally) means that there needs to be more fine tuning before releases. At least in this sense, I agree. It's why I'm doing more testing myself. One simple solution to this is to make milestone release more prominent. Like posting an something like an advertisment on opensuse.org.
I don't think pushing back a release is necessarily a good thing because people expect and prepare for a release on a certain date.
My impression is Tumbleweed is actually acting as a significant test vehicle for factory.
If true, 12.1 should be a great release since so much of the core technology has been getting tested in Tumbleweed.
The kernel in particular hits Tumbleweed at almost the same time it hits factory (or even earlier sometimes.)
There are only a very small subset of packages in Tumbleweed compared to Factory, so the comparison isn't fair at all, sorry.
thanks,
greg k-h Choosing openSUSE Tumbleweed is an alternate option for serious users compared to upgrading to openSUSE 12.1.
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