Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (808 mails)

[Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 02:04:16PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Steven Sroka <sroka.steven@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On 15 August 2011 16:16, Kim Leyendecker <kimleyendecker@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Am 15.08.2011 21:20, schrieb Roger Luedecke:
> > > > However as an Ambassador I must emphasize that these sort of
> > > > anomalies, no matter how technically minor will shake the confidence of
> > > > someone trying the new release. The things that we may consider minor, a
> > > > new
> > > > user will consider to be clues to the overall experience and what to
> > > > expect;
> > > > this is especially true for new users coming from Windows. Thus we lose a
> > > > potential asset to the community in favor of some other distro (usually
> > > > Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, or Mandriva). Frankly, I would rather we be a bit
> > > > late
> > > > on releasing 12.1 than to release it as finished with the same sort of
> > > > issues
> > > > 11.4 showed.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I don´t get it. Where we are loosing users? And why?
> > >
> > > And the releasing point of 12.1 is actually the right choose. If we release
> > > it later, there won´t be time enough between KDE 4.7 and 4.8.
> > >
> > > So, could you please explain the quoted post to me?
> >
> > I think Roger (generally) means that there needs to be more fine
> > tuning before releases. At least in this sense, I agree. It's why I'm
> > doing more testing myself.
> > One simple solution to this is to make milestone release more
> > prominent. Like posting an something like an advertisment on
> > opensuse.org.
> >
> > I don't think pushing back a release is necessarily a good thing
> > because people expect and prepare for a release on a certain date.
>
> My impression is Tumbleweed is actually acting as a significant test
> vehicle for factory.
>
> If true, 12.1 should be a great release since so much of the core
> technology has been getting tested in Tumbleweed.
>
> The kernel in particular hits Tumbleweed at almost the same time it
> hits factory (or even earlier sometimes.)

There are only a very small subset of packages in Tumbleweed compared to
Factory, so the comparison isn't fair at all, sorry.

thanks,

greg k-h
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