Have searched for some discussion of this on list, but didn't turn anything up recent (only things imply linphone version in distro, tends to be stale). The scoop as I see it is : OS 11.4 / Factory kopete 4.6 rpm - requires linphone 3.3, because of bundled lib libmediastreamer.so.0 Packman provides linphone 3.4, libmediastramer unbundled libmediastreamer (Mediastreamer 2?) provides libmediastreamer.so.1 (not sure if the .so.1 version reflects lib API change) This means zypper objects to having both Packman linphone & kopete on system, in general Packman Multi-media is desired to avoid necessary distro codec restrictions. Tumbleweed & Factory, offer kopete 4.6.5 & linphone 3.3 but no unbundled lib libmediastramer In general unbundling libraries seems like a good idea to avoid unwanted application dependency cycles, and Packman has built upgraded linphone & libmediastreamer packages, so that part ought not to be problematic. Fedora have a "No Bundling" policy, presumably it's discouraged in openSUSE for technical software engineering reasons (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries#Why_no_Bundled_... explains). May be there's problems porting kopete to new version of libmediastreamer, or is it simply that some labour is required to update the linphone & libmediastramer packages? Anyone looked at this? It seems like an issue that ought to be sorted for 12.1. Whilst I'd be happy to try and build the package updates, I'm not the best person as currently I have NEVER used kopete or linphone nor submitted packages to Factory. Suggestions? Does it help to look into building kopete against updated linphone & libmediastreamer? Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org