Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (710 mails)

[Anders Johansson <ajh@xxxxxxxx>]

On Thursday 16 June 2011 14:46:47 Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 14:23 +0200, Anders Johansson wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 June 2011 14:04:47 Will Stephenson wrote:
> > > 3) What are the big gaps that it doesn't currently do, compared to
> > > sysvinit? I hear of things like encrypted LVM volumes not working
> > > being dismissed as unimportant.
> > > I'll start you off with "password agents to do interactive things
> > > during service startup, eg openvpn passwords" (bnc675406):
> > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PasswordAgents
> >
> > read-only /usr mounts I believe were dismissed as unimportant as well
>
> They can't work reliably, and never worked reliably for any non-trivial
> setup. They did not in the recent past, and never will in the future.
> Anybody who still claims that hasn't look into any of the
> non-interesting details of the current reality.

What fails? Can you give some relevant examples?

As far as I'm aware, anything that runs before boot.localfs should only use 
things in /bin /sbin or /lib and anything that runs that early that references 
/usr is just broken

Can you point to any bug reports of things breaking when /usr is mounted read-
only?

> We just require that /usr is mounted from initramfs, when systemd is
> started, nobody cares where /usr comes from or if its writable.

initramfs? Are you suggesting sticking that thing into the initrd?

Anders
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