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Re: [opensuse-factory] tumbleweed 2.6.38.6 needs patching else kernel oops
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:48:37PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx> wrote:
The updates repo does not delete the packages it updates. One is
always the newest that gets installed by default, but every
incremental package is still there also.

I don't think you understand the amount of disk space that would take up
over time...

I don't know how to address the space issue, but I think this is a
significant issue.

I'm new to rolling updates, but if one of the eventual targets of
Tumbleweed is servers, there needs to be way to roll a consistent set
of updates to first a test server, and then to production servers.

Um, the idea of a "constantly rolling update" is in contrast to a
"consistent set of updates", they are not the same thing, nor are they
supposed to be. They both fit a different need.

I don't think Tumbleweed has any design goal yet to support that use
case.

That is explicitly NOT the design goal of Tumbleweed at this point in
time.

I don't know if the soon to be released OBS 1.3 will make doing
so easier or not.

I don't know either.

For now, is it safe to say Tumbleweed doesn't address consistent
rollout needs as required by production systems and therefore is not a
good choice for that use? If so, I can update the wiki page.

Tumbleweed also doesn't support making me a jelly sandwich every day
for lunch, should that be on the wiki as well? :)

Seriously, saying all the things that Tumblweed isn't really isn't
helpful, saying what it is, is.

thanks,

greg k-h
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