Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (798 mails)

[Robert Schweikert <rschweikert@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 02/01/2011 07:19 PM, Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
> Do you have more info on the upstream project? 

This was developed in cooperation between Amazon and Novell and is not
setup as a public project. The repository containing the code is Novell
internal. Due to the cooperation with Amazon and the use of the EC2 API
the code has use limitation, i.e. only with Amazon EC2. Therefore, this
has to be in the NonOss repository.

Inclusion of this was agreed upon by AJ on Oct. 25, 2010

mail header removed to protect the innocent ;)

On Monday 25 October 2010 17:06:20 Peter Bowen wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 16:09 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > > > On Monday 18 October 2010 15:31:31 Peter Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:12 +0200, Ciaran Farrell wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday 15 October 2010 15:10:30 Peter Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 14:49 +0200, James Tan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/15/2010 01:53 PM, Peter Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:28 +0200, Christoph Thiel
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You didn't know about this, but Amazon has asked
us in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > past not to repackage ec2-ami-tools. Why do we
need to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > package these?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > We don't need to, but it's nice to have an RPM for
users to
> > > > > > > > > > > > install. ec2-ami-tools is needed for the current
> > > > > > > > > > > > create_ami.sh script from Studio.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > As of the latest release, Amazon has updated their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ec2-ami-tools RPM to fully support SUSE and work
out of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > box with no changes.
https://ec2-downloads.s3.amazonaws.com/ec2-ami-tools.noarch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > .rpm (which is currently
ec2-ami-tools-1.3-57676.noarch.rpm)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will work perfectly on openSUSE and SLE*.  There is a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > detached signature available (same url + ".asc")
that can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > be verified if you want to ensure that it from
Amazon. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > key is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/public-key.asc
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the explanation. Will update the README to
point
> > > > > > > > > > > > users to the Amazon RPM.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The license on the RPM is suck that we can download,
> > > > > > > > > > redistribute it, and include it in our appliances as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There's no RPM for ec2-api-tools? If so, will just
point users
> > > > > > > > > > > > to the .zip. It is needed for the create_ebs_ami.sh
script
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm working on for Studio built SLE EC2 images.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You can package the ec2-api-tools, there is no conflict
here.
> > > > > > > > > > However, I think our policies for OBS would prevent us from
> > > > > > > > > > package it there, because it is not released under an open
> > > > > > > > > > source license[1] and the source code is not available.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > @AJ: Is this correct?  We cannot have this in the OBS?  Note
> > > > > > > > > > that Ciaran cleared it for inclusion into SLES.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To quote from the discussion concerning this
package/license and
> > > > > > > > SLES:
#################################################################
> > > > > > > > ######## ####
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > @Ciaran: Can you please confirm that this license is
approved
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for inclusion into SLES?
> > > > > > > > > > > From a legal perspective, yes. The license allows us to
freely
> > > > > > > > > > > > copy and redistribute the software.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > However, as I pointed out in a previous mail, the
license does
> > > > > > > > > > > > not meet the Open Source Definition - it has a
restriction on
> > > > > > > > > > > > 'field of endeavour' as the software and derived
software  are
> > > > > > > > > > > > only to be used with Amazon's web
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > services.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > PM should decide if this is ok. For SLE there are
packages which
> > > > > > > > > > > > are not OSI approved - mostly firmware.
##################################################################
> > > > > > > > ####### #####
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thus, as for firmware which doesn't meet the OSI definition, PM
> > > > > > > > must make the decision to actually approve the inclusion. The
> > > > > > > > same applies to including the package on any product.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AJ, can you please determine if we can include software licensed
> > > > > > under the Amazon Software License in openSUSE?
> > > >
> > > > I'm fine with adding ec2-ami-tools under the Amazon Software License.
> >
> > Just to clarify, there are three packages under this license:
> >
> > ec2-api-tools
> > ec2-ami-tools
> > suse-ami-tools (portions that are from Amazon)

Ok, so let's add all three to NonFree.

> > > > Let's do the following to record this decision: Get the package into
> > > > openSUSE:Factory:NonFree!
> > > >
> > > > Then you can setup a proper devel project for this, e.g.
> > > > devel:openSUSE:Factory,
> > > >
> > > > To be clear, my approval is based on doing those two steps. Please
> > > > talk with Coolo or myself if any problems occur,
> > > >
> > > > Andreas
Andreas
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