Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (508 mails)

[Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 09:57:44AM +0100, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Le jeudi 09 décembre 2010, à 10:01 -0800, Greg KH a écrit :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo is now up and has exactly one package that
> > will install properly, git.  :)
> >
> > Jiri is working on getting the kernel packages building properly, and
> > I'm looking at linking to network:samba:STABLE as that's a good place to
> > get the latest stable samba packages.
> >
> > But, what I need from you all, is a request for what packages do you
> > feel I should be updating right now, and hopefully you can provide a
> > pointer to the repo for where these packages are (if they are only in
> > FACTORY, that's fine as well.)
>
> Can you elaborate on how Tumbleweed is managed? As far as I can see,
> you're making links to other projects (and, eek, git is a link to a home
> project -- that's something that should be avoided, imho: never link to
> home projects).

Why not?  I trust the home project to have the proper version of that
package.  Would you like it better if somehow I just link to the Factory
version instead?  I trust the home project more as I know it builds and
works properly on the 11.3 base, not just Factory.

> My understanding was that you wanted to use a model like the Factory
> one, where we push things to Tumbleweed when they are ready. But with
> links, that works a bit differently: (assuming we add some apps stuff
> from GNOME:Apps) when we update a package in GNOME:Apps, there's no hard
> guarantee it will work. We try to make that guarantee when we push from
> GNOME:Apps to Factory. I thought it'd be the same for Tumbleweed, but
> if it works with links, there's no way to make that guarantee.

Why not, these are just "links" of a copy type, not a link that
instantly propagates.

i.e. I'm linking to a specific revision of the package, which should be
fine, right?

> In all cases, you can add all of GNOME:STABLE:2.32, I guess. If you use
> links, though, we will have to remember to change the links for a new
> GNOME version (since we'll likely use GNOME:STABLE:3.0 for the next
> version, etc.)

What do you think the proper management model for Tumbleweed would be to
make your life as a package mantainer easier?  In the end, I want to
make it easiest for you, not me as a project manager.

thanks,

greg k-h
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