Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (648 mails)

[Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thursday 04 November 2010 22:36:13 Andrew Jorgensen wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 18:06 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
> > El 04/11/10 17:53, Andrew Jorgensen escribió:
> > > On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 21:16 +0100, Dirk Müller wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 04 November 2010, Pavol Rusnak wrote:
> > > > > It seems only Arch and openSUSE have 8.0, all of the rest uses v6
> > > > > or libjpeg-turbo.
> > > >
> > > > Thats correct, mainly due to LSB requirements, which we chose to
> > > > ignore.
> > >
> > > I'm going to recommend that we stop ignoring LSB requirements.
> >
> > Oh really ? the LSB is non-sense. what good reasons ?
>
> At the risk of repeating myself: This pixbuf loader bug is just one
> example.
>
> The LSB exists to make it possible to run proprietary products on any
> LSB-compliant linux distro.  And despite the tunnel-vision open source
> enthusiasts sometimes have there are a many important and useful
> proprietary products out there.  When we fail to run some product that
> someone needs they go to Fedora or Ubuntu because the OS is irrelevant
> to the vast majority of customers.  The only thing that matters is what
> the customer wants to /do/ with the OS.

LSB requires that certain libraries are available, it does not require that 
the complete system is using them.

The case we have here were two instances of one library end in the same 
binary is IMO not covered in the LSB - at least not the last time I looked.

> I realize that in some cases LSB fails to accomplish this goal but in
> this case it would have succeeded as it does in many cases.
>
> If you feel that LSB is failing to accomplish this in some way please
> step up and help give them constructive suggestions as to how it could
> be accomplished better.  In the real world there will always be
> proprietary products and /we/ are better off if those products can run
> smoothly on our favorite distro.

Andrew, I think you have a different opinion what LSB does than I do. I 
have been involved in the past with LSB and would be surprised if recently 
they changed in a way you implied. If any of my comments above is wrong, 
I'd like to see facts (references),

Andreas
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