Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (286 mails)

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:52, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> On Monday 30 August 2010 20:11:20 Malcolm wrote:
> > Hi List
> > I have created a bug requesting adding the google-talkplugin to
> > openSUSE Non free, please review and add your support :)
> >
> > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=635607
>
> We cannot just include packages without a license - and for most non-free
> packages we would probably need a redistribution license from Google - and
> those are not easy to get.
>
> For these kind of packages, it's really better to download them yourself,

In principle I agree with what you've said Andreas... the issue here
is... Goggle is not (yet?) providing a package for openSUSE.  There is
only a package for Ubuntu... thus there is nothing available to
"download yourself".

Using alien on the deb doesn't provide an installable RPM.  If you
know what you're doing, you can extract the contents and manually
rebuild it into a custom RPM, but.. that's not something your average
user can do.

As it is, the majority of openSUSE users are stuck if they want to use
Google Talk.  They cannot install the DEB file.. alien fails to build
an installable RPM, and we can't (for reasons stated) provide a build
in non-free.  So.. what do we do?  Say suck it up and use something
else?  Say too bad, go use Ubuntu?  Say, RTFM and point them at the
RPM man page?  (Serious questions by the way... more and more I'm
seeing 3rd parties who _used_ to build openSUSE RPMs aren't bothering
anymore... they just make the Ubuntu DEBs.)

Maybe Google will provide an RPM at some point...who knows...

C.
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