Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (286 mails)

[Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Am Montag 02 August 2010 schrieb Vincent Untz:
> If we do Milestone 1, I guess that means we need to submit things before
> this Friday, is that right? My gut feeling is that we should do it to
> make sure that what we have in Factory today actually works, but if
> vacation makes it harder, that's another story...

We build live cds in any case day by day - the KDE one is currently stuck
because of KDE 4.6, but the GNOME one builds fine.

> I must admit I'd like to push the feature/version freeze for the base
> system and the complete distro a month later (or maybe just a few
> weeks?) since it feels a bit early to me, and I had the impression that
> many people were pushing to include new upstream versions after the
> freeze for 11.3.

> Given the amount of valid bugs received during RC1 and RC2 (compared to
> the rest of the cycle), I wonder if there's something we can do here:
> either a bit more time between RC1 and GM, or maybe get more people
> testing Milestone 7 (by giving it a Beta label?).
A month for a RC freeze is already a lot of time - I wouldn't want to enlarge
this or we get even more "we have to take this" changes. 

Changing the label of Milestone 7 is something we can discuss, but then
we're back at "why only one Beta?" and I don't want to go there really.
With the work flow we have and the hard to predict upstream developments,
it's very hard to follow typical expectations of "Beta" and "Alpha". Perhaps
someone has a better idea? Or count the milestones back to 0? This would
make the count down character more clear and give milestone 0 some 
speciality.

> Since GNOME 3.0 has slipped to March, we'll miss it anyway (it'll likely
> be released at the end of March, and unless we release in April or May,
> it'll be hard to ship it for 11.4). The current plan is to put it in a
> specific project in the build service, so people can easily upgrade to
> it when it's ready after 11.4 gets out.
That sounds like a good plan.

Greetings, Stephan
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