Richard Creighton schreef:
On Monday 07 June 2010 07:13:42 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
I didn't agree with the conclusion and reopened the bugreport - it occured as well on my system (without this thread I wouldn't have checked),
Andreas
Thank you Andreas. Too bad the bug-reporting system isn't as effective as the mail list threads. It seems as broken as the bugs being reported. I personally have been bitten by the "Ooooh, this is too hard" bug reports (especially in the system repair module arena as far back as 10.3) which often were closed even though not fixed simply because a new version came out. The repair system wasn't fixed, for example, from 10.3 to 11.0 and hasn't improved too much since then in major areas like handling RAIDs and LVMs, but the handling was, well, a new release, close, reopen if it still exists and we will ignore this one too because it is too hard.
To me, fundamental tools like the partitioner and repair system should be the ones that work at all costs because when the system fails in some way, they are needed most to work. When the system is working, they aren't as needed, but a Linux convert from Doze needs those basic tools to have a hope to revive a dead system when an errant power failure has hosed his ability to boot his computer and the repair system or partitioner and other basic tools fail, even make it worse.
Andreas, there are a few in the openSuSE/Novell camp that seem to really care, and overall, I think you belong on that list, but the list is woefully too short of late IMO and because of that, I am seeing increasingly people searching for alternatives. I have stuck with openSuSE so far because with one exception, (no, not 'buntu'), there are few that "Just work". I do, however, no longer recommend openSuSE as a first distro to Doze converts but so far, openSuSE overall is still the distro of choice despite the warts. Before openSuSE turns into the "elephant man" because of the increasing number of warts, I hope Andreas, that you can influence a return to the quality of attitude and product openSuSE once held.
Richard
Helas for me this is about the same... Not to be able to fix a broken system is the worst thing that can happen... Half broken or invalid pkgs, crappy x-drivers, to 'restore a 'glimps' of a desktop, keyboards that don't work, or apps that are half out of the monitor and cannot be moved..... it is getting a little too bad for me too.... Everything is so broken, you do not know where to start... And it even destroys working configs, to spent half an hour just to get things that worked, back to work again.... Should i say bye suse? -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball, aka M9. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 103" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org