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Re: [opensuse-factory] factory Y2 partitioner
- From: Richard Creighton <ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:14 -0400
- Message-id: <201006070750.14680.ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>
On Monday 07 June 2010 07:13:42 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Thank you Andreas. Too bad the bug-reporting system isn't as effective as the
mail list threads. It seems as broken as the bugs being reported. I
personally have been bitten by the "Ooooh, this is too hard" bug reports
(especially in the system repair module arena as far back as 10.3) which often
were closed even though not fixed simply because a new version came out. The
repair system wasn't fixed, for example, from 10.3 to 11.0 and hasn't improved
too much since then in major areas like handling RAIDs and LVMs, but the
handling was, well, a new release, close, reopen if it still exists and we
will ignore this one too because it is too hard.
To me, fundamental tools like the partitioner and repair system should be the
ones that work at all costs because when the system fails in some way, they
are needed most to work. When the system is working, they aren't as needed,
but a Linux convert from Doze needs those basic tools to have a hope to revive
a dead system when an errant power failure has hosed his ability to boot his
computer and the repair system or partitioner and other basic tools fail, even
make it worse.
Andreas, there are a few in the openSuSE/Novell camp that seem to really care,
and overall, I think you belong on that list, but the list is woefully too
short of late IMO and because of that, I am seeing increasingly people
searching for alternatives. I have stuck with openSuSE so far because with
one exception, (no, not 'buntu'), there are few that "Just work". I do,
however, no longer recommend openSuSE as a first distro to Doze converts but
so far, openSuSE overall is still the distro of choice despite the warts.
Before openSuSE turns into the "elephant man" because of the increasing number
of warts, I hope Andreas, that you can influence a return to the quality of
attitude and product openSuSE once held.
Richard
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I didn't agree with the conclusion and reopened the bugreport - it occured
as well on my system (without this thread I wouldn't have checked),
Andreas
Thank you Andreas. Too bad the bug-reporting system isn't as effective as the
mail list threads. It seems as broken as the bugs being reported. I
personally have been bitten by the "Ooooh, this is too hard" bug reports
(especially in the system repair module arena as far back as 10.3) which often
were closed even though not fixed simply because a new version came out. The
repair system wasn't fixed, for example, from 10.3 to 11.0 and hasn't improved
too much since then in major areas like handling RAIDs and LVMs, but the
handling was, well, a new release, close, reopen if it still exists and we
will ignore this one too because it is too hard.
To me, fundamental tools like the partitioner and repair system should be the
ones that work at all costs because when the system fails in some way, they
are needed most to work. When the system is working, they aren't as needed,
but a Linux convert from Doze needs those basic tools to have a hope to revive
a dead system when an errant power failure has hosed his ability to boot his
computer and the repair system or partitioner and other basic tools fail, even
make it worse.
Andreas, there are a few in the openSuSE/Novell camp that seem to really care,
and overall, I think you belong on that list, but the list is woefully too
short of late IMO and because of that, I am seeing increasingly people
searching for alternatives. I have stuck with openSuSE so far because with
one exception, (no, not 'buntu'), there are few that "Just work". I do,
however, no longer recommend openSuSE as a first distro to Doze converts but
so far, openSuSE overall is still the distro of choice despite the warts.
Before openSuSE turns into the "elephant man" because of the increasing number
of warts, I hope Andreas, that you can influence a return to the quality of
attitude and product openSuSE once held.
Richard
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