Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (485 mails)

[Sid Boyce <sboyce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 03/06/10 22:19, Andrea Florio wrote:
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> Il 03/06/2010 22:08, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
> > Le jeudi 03 juin 2010, à 21:50 +0200, Martin Schlander a écrit :
> > > Torsdag den 3. juni 2010 19:09:28 skrev Vincent Untz:
> > > > I'm trying to figure out what to do for
> > > > https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=609433
> > > > This bug is about the preferences in gnome-packagekit, where there's an
> > > > option to check for major upgrades (ie, upgrades from 11.2 to 11.3).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to Michael, I now know that this works by parsing some file in
> > > > /etc/products.d/ and that we could advertise such upgrades by releasing
> > > > an update to the openSUSE-release package.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I wonder: is this something we are doing? Ie, will we release a new
> > > > openSUSE-release package for 11.2 to tell users about the 11.3 release?
> > > > (and then for 11.3 to tell about 11.3+1?)
> > >
> > > Does this only affect gnome-packagekit? I guess KUpdateapplet could do the 
> > > same then, or?
> >
> > I have no idea if KUpdateapplet has UI for this.
> >
> > Vincent
>
>
> what we really miss is that:
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Desktops%20%28Recommended%29
>
> that thing (the perfectly works) just show the new distro version is
> available, but upgrade to the distro is not mandatory.
>
> if the user doesn't accept the distro upgrade, the updates will still be
> installed for the OS version they have...
>
> i don't know if that can be done on suse (i would love it), for sure,
> it's possible without big problems if users use ONLY oss, non-oss, and
> updates repo.
>
> but you have to agree with me, that our "repository structure" is not
> that good as ubuntu one. them infact, just need universe, multiverse and
> "restricted" to have more packages (including restricted ones like
> codecs) than we have with oss, non-oss, updates and packman.
>
> in other words, i think, the major problem that suse needs to solve to
> be able to provide that kind of "distro upgrade" without trouble is to
> get rid of packman, or just work with packman packagers, or even create
> an official repo, that will allow the users to be safe.
>
> actually i bet that ANY suse user use packman repo, but i cannot bet
> that any packman package is problem less...
>
> Andrea
>
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I posted the error below to another group after reading how to add the
repository from the URL above and it's "Ignored" - plus kernels that
build and boot on openSUSE fail to boot on Ubuntu. Being able to select
which kernel to boot is another problem as all the docs mention pressing
ESC as you boot, but it's actually the SHIFT key. The docs mention
"mkinitrd" which doesn't exist, I guess it's now "mkinitramfs".
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I added the repository - 10.04 LTS.
Any idea how to fix the Ignore?
# apt-get update
Get: 1 http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release.gpg [307B]
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwibber-daily/ppa/ubuntu/ lucid/main
Translation-en_GB
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Some things in Ubuntu are not all as plain sailing nor as well
documented as they are on openSUSE.
Regards
Sid.




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