Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (487 mails)

[Michal Vyskocil <mvyskocil@xxxxxxx>]

On Tuesday 04 May 2010 10:53:23 am Ludwig Nussel wrote:
> Michal Vyskocil wrote:
> > 0) Are the maintenance rules for openSUSE same as in Contrib? For
> > instance can I update a (a leaf one, but Contrib is intended for leaf
> > packages only) package as a bugfix? Because as I remember that was the
> > biggest reason for Contrib after opening the Factory.

Hi Ludwig,

> You can update packages in Factory all day long (minus temporary
> freeze before branching a new product). Maintenance is an issue only
> if a package gets included in a product.

I'm sure I understand the development and a maintenance process well ;-)

> Having a package on a products means greater responsibility of course.

Yes and this is exactly why I asked if maintenance rules were not changed (and 
I did not catch that change somehow). The main reason why I have some packages 
in Contrib and not in Factory is because I don't want to take this level of 
responsibility for maintenance. I'm willing to provide the "best effort", but 
that's all from my side.

So if there are a plans to merge Contrib into Factory, maintainers should be 
very aware about that responsibility. And it's very curious to me, that noone 
thought about future maintenance, when they propose a merge.


> Those responsibilities are a result of user expectations on openSUSE.

With an existence of widely used (and many times recommended) BuildService 
repositories - the situation changed a lot. I already agree with having strict 
rules for Factory, but as situation rapidly changed from old times, I also see 
the need for more let say - flexible, but no that supported repository. And 
that's a Contrib in my eyes - but maybe I'm completely wrong.

> They need to be discussed separately from the technical requirements for
> a Factory checkin.

Yes it might be discussed separately. But it's very close, because for 
separate Contrib it'd be really useful to use the same QA checks as a Factory 
has.

> There's no excuse for avoiding Factory just to bypass openSUSE packaging 
policy IMO.

Sorry did not understand, what/who avoiding the packaging policy and how?

Regards
Michal Vyskocil