Hi . Well OS11.2 RC2 latest updates Just done "zypper dup" it seems the old boot problem is back the machine if left to it's own devices will not boot into GUI i have to boot to init 3 log in as root then run init 5 to get a gui up it seems to just die at loading HAL that is the last thing that can be seen before the screen goes black HDD activity stops keyboard is dead the only thing is force a hard reboot . Machine is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 AMD Turion 64 ATI Radeon express M200 PCI 5955 if memory serves correctly 1.5 Gb ram . No traces left in the logs to be found this is AFAIAK a SHOW STOPPER now so lets have some ideas from the ones in the know where do i look for info on the system Pete . the sig below is NOT the machine in question before anyone gets clever -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 12:45 up 22:11, 3 users, load average: 0.79, 0.53, 0.52