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Re: [opensuse-factory] Anit-Vendor Change Extremism - Call for discussion
  • From: Andrea Florio <andrea@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:29:06 +0200
  • Message-id: <4ADDBB22.1050209@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Il 20/10/2009 15:15, Martin Schlander ha scritto:
Some may have already noticed this bug/design choice:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548089

If you add Packman or any OBS repo to 11.2rc, the updates will be hidden from
you by YaST and zypper - because they involve a vendor change. As seen in
this
screenshot:
http://bugzillafiles.novell.org/attachment.cgi?id=323038

This means that to update libxine1, amarok or any other package in the distro
to Packman or OBS versions, you have three options:

1) Manually go to the Versions tab in YaST *every* time you want to replace a
distro package with a 3rd party one - with *nothing* whatsoever telling you
that an upgrade is actually available for your choosing - you must be aware
of
this yourself.

2) Set 'solver.AllowVenderChange = true' in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf

3) create '/etc/zypp/vendors.d/foobar' with your trusted vendors.

Naturally *no* new user will *ever* figure out any of this without expert
help
- and neither will most existing openSUSE users.

I think the vast majority of openSUSE users add one or more Packman/OBS repos
and want to be able to upgrade packages in the distro without having to fight
the package manager to do it.

Personally I think this is a total disaster for openSUSE, and a nightmare for
anyone who tries to promote openSUSE and help newbies.

Is it just me?

no, i completly agree...

the problem of that is coming from SLE where that is really important.

i think openSUSE need to made a choice... be just a development version
of the next SLE or really provide an userfriendly linux distro.

because i think any suse user likes the second option, all the
"enterprise specific" option should be develop but NOT ENABLED on OPENsuse.

Andrea
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