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Re: [opensuse-factory] 18 months of updates
- From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:13:50 +0200 (CEST)
- Message-id: <alpine.LSU.2.00.0908200206080.5528@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Wednesday, 2009-08-19 at 02:13 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Pray, where did I say that?
I'm used to do disto upgrades, I like that method, and I know very well what it takes. It is certainly not impossible, but it is false that there is no downtime.
HAH! Never. That feature has been lost for years.
Mail is one of the things that usually breaks during the upgrade, so those mails were often lost. That's probably why it has been dissabled. Instead, there a service, crpmconfigcheck, that does a check during boot and report those .rpm* files.
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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On Wednesday, 2009-08-19 at 02:13 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Wednesday, 2009-08-19 at 00:11 +0200, Hans Witvliet wrote:
> > can upgrade much easier than with the need to boot from installation
> > medium.
> > Without _any_ downtime?
> > You can bet there will be a kernel update, so going down is
> inevitable..
Not only that. Many programs get new configuration files, with the
original one moved to a backup (.rpmold). Or the old one is preserved and
the new one copied alongside (.rpmnew). In any case, the admin has got to
review all those before the system is fully operational after the upgrade.
Some services run perfectly the first moment, some others need a lot of
reconfiguration.
So, yes, there is downtime.
Please stop suggesting "it is impossible to survive a dist upgrade".
Pray, where did I say that?
I'm used to do disto upgrades, I like that method, and I know very well what it takes. It is certainly not impossible, but it is false that there is no downtime.
Usually you get a mail in every case of .rpmnew or .rpmold, so you can fix if necessary on-the-fly.
HAH! Never. That feature has been lost for years.
Mail is one of the things that usually breaks during the upgrade, so those mails were often lost. That's probably why it has been dissabled. Instead, there a service, crpmconfigcheck, that does a check during boot and report those .rpm* files.
- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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