Hey, So im fairly new to the openSUSE community(read, less than half a year, comming from a sourcebased distribution and also a using "rolling releases") .. this thing with milestone releases is new to me. ps. im not sure what maillist i was supposed to send this to, hence my choise in this one Im running GNOME as DE but with Xfwm4 as my windowmanager instead of Metacity. previous milestone, i did like so ... "killall metacity && xfwm4 --replace&" and re-logged in, and all was peachy. Now in this release, after doing the above, it still tries to start metacity every half minute or so.. (noticed this due to spewing out errors in my tty1 when i missed a metacity theme) ... maby it was like that in previous milestones aswell, but i didnt notice due to lack of missing theme?! :) ps2. concider this a bugreport of sorts... Also, the update from milestone to milestone release is to me a big PITA a simple "sudo zypper dist-upgrade" seems to crash my installation most of the time. (read, the Milestone 3,4,5) .. then having to revert back to milestone2 and do a dist-upgrade again. The kernel, Kernel-default-extra .. in this milestone is different version than kernel-default .. which is fun, since doing a ínstallation using the milestone2 installer ext4 is the default filesystem, not beeing supported by the kernel-default :P aaannd.. Yast , the package management seems to break aswell.. i can fire up yast2 but when i choose the package management, it says something about not having Gtk plugin installed or something like that. sorry, this became a long mail with lots of "complaints".. .but its cus i luve the opensuse.. actually. best regards /smurfd aka nicklas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org