"jdd (kim2)"
Joerg Schilling a écrit :
The CDDL has been aproved as a free license by the OSI
So, if I understand well, you say that your application can be included in openSUSE with the present licence without problem?
So far, so good.
openSUSE board or Project Director should then ask the Novell lawyers they opinion (if it's already done, give a link to the result), then we will see.
I personally have in theory no problems with letting lawyers check things as long as their decisions are not based on false claims. The cdrtools code has already been successfully reviewd in depth by the Sun legal department. There is a problem when we try to match your demand with reality. The software that was created by the cdrtools project is used by many other projects, but this is (at least for three projects) done in a non-legal way. It is unfortunately obvious that suse usually does not go the way you propose while integrating software. - Why did suse belive in the pointles claims from Mr. Bloch against the cdrtools but never make a legal review on cdrkit? Any legal verification would have immediately revealed that believing in the Arguments from Mr. Bloch would make all Linux distros illegal and made the GPL a non-free license. - Why does suse distribute the GNU vcdimager that is in obvious conflict with the Copyright law? GNU vcdimager is based on a Reed Solomon coder implementation that _never_ has been published under GPL and the author of the code did never give his permission to put this code under GPL. GNU vcdimager however claims that the code is under GPL. We offered several different ways to the vcdimager author on how to make his software legal. He rejected all of them. Conclusion: vcdimager is undistributable but suse happily distributes it. - libcdio is also based on code from cdrtools. The code it is based on, was published under "GPLv2 _only_". The libcdio author first changed the license from "GPLv2 _only_" to "GPLv2 or any later" without the permission from the original author. Hhe later even changed the license to "GPLv3 or any later" without having the permission to do so. - there is another problem with libcdio: libcdio is under GPLv2 but it is usually called by LGPL code (e.g. from LGPL libraries the GNOME project). It is commonly agreed that calling GPL code from non-GPL code is most likely not permitted. This is a problem that was detected by the Sun legal department and because of this problem, Sun did ummediately stop to distribute libcdio and we did write a replacement library for GNUME that is based on an enhanced version of cdda2wav.
This is the most important part.
Ten you claim wodim infringe your licence. I beg you made a sue to the author? so we have to wait the jugement and act then accordingly.
I don't see any other interest of the discussion. I'm not a lawyer, you are not, and even if you where only a juge can say what is true (and this is to be done in an international manner). All the rest is mere opinion.
thanks for your great work, anyway.
If you like equal treatment, you should vote for the following: - Either Suse believes in the reults from the legal check from Sun and starts distributing the original cdrtools as soon as possible.... - .... or suse _immediately_ stops distributing VCDimager, libcdio and cdrkit. We then start a legal review with cdrtools and do not forward to the other projects before we agree on the results for cdrtools. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org