On Friday 31 July 2009 13:51:56 Martin Schlander wrote:
Fredag den 31. juli 2009 00:06:44 skrev Cristian Morales Vega:
2009/7/30 Atri
: I totally agree with the one-click procedure, no problems with that. But we should at least make the one-click link easy to access. In the present implementation one is lead through a series of links and choices before one can actually 'one-click' the installer that does the job. Also the one-click installer leads to conflicts sometimes which require user-interaction, and not of an easy kind at all, for somebody new.
There could be legal implications if openSUSE included a link/script to the codecs in the distro itself. Right now these 1-Click links are hosted in http://opensuse-community.org (not related to the openSUSE project).
And the codecs 1-Click link doesn't always work because the 1-Click tech itself has problems that need someone with time to volunteer to work on it... some of the problems need work also in ZYpp/repository metadata format. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-softwaremgmt/2008-08/msg00012.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-softwaremgmt/2008-12/msg00001.html http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-softwaremgmt/2009-07/msg00000.html
Not sure if yast-pkgbindings, that 1-Click uses, still selects different packages than zypper (and IMHO zypper is the one doing the right thing, others do wrong).
Having (tried) to maintain multimedia YMPs myself, I gave it up and instead I suggest people to install the packages manually with yast or copy/paste a couple of zypper commands.
The biggest problem with 1-click is YaST being too anal about arch change (libxine1 from i586->i686) and vendor changes, and in case of conflicts it'll ask the user to manually select a solution - whereas zypper will suggest a solution by itself and simply ask if the user wants to accept or not.
I actually know people who are not big fans of the command line - but when seeing conflicts - resort to zypper instead of yast, because of the different conflict resolution approach (yes/no question vs. manually solve X number of conflicts).
This is not only a problem in case of multimedia btw., but in many cases, I think the YaST conflict dialog should adopt the behaviour of zypper - wonder if this would be a bugreport or a feature request.
I agree with you completely. One-click installation is alright if you are installing a new-package with limited dependencies but if you are trying to upgrade packages coming from a different repository or having complicated dependency behaviour it is quite a different story. That is why I think it will be way more easier if a script calling zypper does this for the user instead of him having to wade through a maze of links before he finds a link for one-click installation that might or in all probability might not work. Bye -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org