Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (507 mails)

[Larry Stotler <larrystotler@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Stephan Kulow<coolo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The drop of KDE 3 is a very good example. Once in a while someone comes around
> arguing that dropping KDE 3 is a bad idea and KDE4 is much worse, ... - if
> invited to maintain KDE:KDE3 -> silence.

No.  It would seem that the majority of the KDE3 users aren't
programmers and therefore unable to do what needs to be done to
maintain it.  While I laud the developer's goal to make KDE4 work, I
have yet to find it as usable, stable, or as fast as KDE3.  However,
since I decided to stick with 11.0 for now, I haven't even tried KDE4
recently.  I've taken a wait and see attitude for 11.2.  I will
probably do some testing once it hits Beta(or Milestone 5 - Whose idea
was it to change that?)

> Sure some features need to be done by it's maintainers, e.g. disabling beagle
> by default is done easily by everyone but still the maintainers should be
> convinced by arguments not by one line patches. Same goes for pulseaudio and
> the like. I don't have any sound problems on factory though, so I wonder why
> pulseaudio is still a problem to some.

The biggest pet peave for me is that those things are unneccessary and
shouldn't be on by default.
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