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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse] General Poor quality of Opensuse (Offensive Word Found In Message)
- From: Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:54:40 +0200
- Message-id: <200907131054.40342.coolo@xxxxxxxxxx>
Am Samstag 11 Juli 2009 schrieb Dean Hilkewich:
openfate was never meant to be a miracle, but to open Novell's processes both
for input and for output. If you can't take that Novell only implements a
dozen features, then openfate is there to grab the rest. Just write in a
comment that you work on it (preferably with the devel project you maintain it
in) and it's done. In former times you could only guess which features were
there and which are worked on, now you know. Of course for some the knowledge
of having _their_ features being "ignored" by the community in large is
frustrating, but so it is.
The drop of KDE 3 is a very good example. Once in a while someone comes around
arguing that dropping KDE 3 is a bad idea and KDE4 is much worse, ... - if
invited to maintain KDE:KDE3 -> silence.
Sure some features need to be done by it's maintainers, e.g. disabling beagle
by default is done easily by everyone but still the maintainers should be
convinced by arguments not by one line patches. Same goes for pulseaudio and
the like. I don't have any sound problems on factory though, so I wonder why
pulseaudio is still a problem to some.
Greetings, Stephan
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Peter Nikolic wrote:
The sound system is a total mess this pulseaudio thing is what nothing
more than a total blight on the system there needs to be a choice for
users risk pulseaudio or can that and run safe Alsa sound system . I
know you are going to say Alsa doesn't do this or that but unlike
pulseaudio it never failed to work it never chopped the audio
Beagle ! what a total pain and complete resource hog once again it
needs to be a LOT easier to un-install or not install at all With the
requisite warning for those that do install it beware it will hog your
CPU for excessive amounts of time , Likewise Nepomuk .
Pete .
I feel you pain. As a long time user of suse the QC has indeed gone
down recently with the forcing of developing projects that are not ready
for primetime. It still boggles my mind how much openfate has turned
out to be nothing more then service put up for people to vent and
project leaders/developers to ignore. These are some of the top issues
openfate was never meant to be a miracle, but to open Novell's processes both
for input and for output. If you can't take that Novell only implements a
dozen features, then openfate is there to grab the rest. Just write in a
comment that you work on it (preferably with the devel project you maintain it
in) and it's done. In former times you could only guess which features were
there and which are worked on, now you know. Of course for some the knowledge
of having _their_ features being "ignored" by the community in large is
frustrating, but so it is.
The drop of KDE 3 is a very good example. Once in a while someone comes around
arguing that dropping KDE 3 is a bad idea and KDE4 is much worse, ... - if
invited to maintain KDE:KDE3 -> silence.
Sure some features need to be done by it's maintainers, e.g. disabling beagle
by default is done easily by everyone but still the maintainers should be
convinced by arguments not by one line patches. Same goes for pulseaudio and
the like. I don't have any sound problems on factory though, so I wonder why
pulseaudio is still a problem to some.
Greetings, Stephan
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