Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (507 mails)

[Andreas Jaeger <aj@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Peter,

On Saturday 11 July 2009 01:47:42 Peter Nikolic wrote:
> I have used Opensuse now for some years  since the days of 5.3 in fact and
> Linux in general well before that since the days of the Early 0.9 kernels
> all floppy distro no X   i also ran Slackware  and Red Hat  and tested a
> few more along the way so i know a thing or two about Linux  i have even
> brewed up my own distro at one time .
>
>
> It has to be said now after attempting to get  11.2 MS2  and 11.2 MS3 to
> play the game the standards of releases has fallen to a new all time low 
> how on earth have you got the front to call these releases anything other
> than Alpha at best .

Please take into account that 11.2 Milestones are indeed Alphas and not 
releases.  These milestones have only minimal testing.

> The sound system is a total mess this pulseaudio thing is what nothing more
> than a total blight on the system  there needs to be a choice for users
> risk pulseaudio or can that and run safe Alsa sound system .  I know you
> are going to say Alsa  doesn't do this or that but unlike pulseaudio it
> never failed to work it never chopped the audio
>
> Beagle ! what a total pain and complete resource hog once again it needs to
> be a LOT easier to un-install or not install at all  With the requisite
> warning for those that do install it beware it will hog your CPU for
> excessive amounts of time  , Likewise Nepomuk .

There's work going on for beagle to not enable it by default.

> [...]
> > There is a lot more i could mention maybe i will shortly but one thing is
> for sure the situation as of this moment is a total disgrace to the SuSe
> name and a very poor shadow of it's former good name  sort it out people ,
> There is no point being the first ones to release something if it is a
> complete screwup  a little more time in the R&D and less in the sales will
> work wonders

I doubt that we're the first ones to release everything.  We integrate early 
in factory to get early testing - and that's the purpose of the Milestones.  
With early testing - and bugreporting, - we will also do early fixing.  
Also problems can be reported in time to the upstream authors so that they 
help with fixes.  This all ensures that the final release is stable.  And once 
we have the final release, we might be the last ones to release - and to 
release a stable product.

You're more than welcome to report bugs or fix issues, we have opened factory 
so that everybody can participate,

Andreas
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