Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (507 mails)

[Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 02:53:09PM +0100, Sid Boyce wrote:
> Oddball wrote:
> > Sid Boyce schreef:
> > > The distro has problems of a pre-Alpha nature that crept in just pre
> > > Milestone 1 and are still present.
> > > Regards
> > > Sid.
> > I thought milestone 1, replaced alpha 1.
> > If this is right, we would be at alpha 3 around now, no?
> > I do not recall to have better alpha's earlier.
> >
> > In fact the first alpha has to me allways been the best, since 10.0,
> > than it gets worse, and after that it becomes slightly better, because
> > of bugs noticed, workarounds, and some fixes.
> > (Some bugs hang around for a few rounds: wifi trouble, amarok. Some pkgs
> > that are usefull. dissappear, to never be replaced or come back. One
> > forgets even the name.... little prog to empty the server-mailbox. It is
> > a little annoying to use a seperate pc or laptop, or wine with
> > mailwasher to empty a server mailbox....but ok, one gets used to
> > everything i guess, which won't say that is good..)
> >
> > I do not know if shouting at developers will help to improve the distro..
> >
> > The only thing i know helps is: work hard, and test well.
> > Many people are needed to establish a good product.
> > Changing too much at the same time, will lead to problems that are not
> > easy to determine or solve.
> >
> > What one wants, and what happens, seem to be different sometimes....
> >
> > I sometimes share Peters vieuw at many points, but manage to get the
> > distro workable...
> > (But i believe that it should work out of the box shouldn't it?)
>
> I somehow get the feeling that we are suffering from the lay-offs,
> leaving the remaining guys with too great a workload and hence to recent
> opening up of factory which has not yet kicked in to make up for the
> shortfall.

Please note that a large majority of suse people are currently working
on some other releases at the moment.  When they are finished, then we
turn back to working on opensuse.  So it will get better once those
deadlines are passed, and we can focus all of our attention back on the
openSUSE release.

thanks,

greg k-h
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