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Re: [opensuse-factory] KDE4 without pulseaudio
- From: Cristian Morales Vega <cmorve69@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:54:37 +0200
- Message-id: <8235e6f40907011054r5ffcdbc6x6cd144288390b7b3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2009/7/1 Daniele <kailed@xxxxxxxxxx>:
I don't have Factory installed, but there are some thing that should be defined:
- About GStreamer by itself:
In KDE3 gstreamer was certainly bad. Each app had to implement it
separately and the time KDE3 apps started implementing gstreamer
backends coincided with the 0.8 -> 0.10 API change.
Now there is only a point where Gstreamer needs to be implemented:
Phonon. Since Gnome guys seem to be happy with GStreamer I suppose any
problem isn't in GStreamer itself but in its Phonon backend, that
should be fixed. I would argue that GStreamer is preferable if only
because of multimedia support uniformity between desktops. That's
supposing there isn't any valid point in favor of xine over gstreamer
(is gstreamer still unable to play DVDs with menus?).
- About PulseAudio:
Should I understand that the default GStreamer audio output is
PulseAudio? Is the audio output of Phonon dependent of the backend? If
using the GStreamer Phonon backend means using the GStreamer selected
audio output and that's PulseAudio then we have a coherency problem.
It's my understanding that in 11.2 ALSA still outputs directly to the
hardware, that only uses the pulse plugin through a patch in the gnome
executable. So, if for KDE we are configuring ALSA to not use PA but
we are configuring Phonon to use GStreamer (that uses PA) we should
change something... when in KDE, PA could be used or not, but
shouldn't be used in Phonon apps and not used in everything else.
That said... it's my understanding that Phonon selects the audio
output independently of the backend. But without a Factory
installation I can't really say anything for sure.
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Il mercoledì 01 luglio 2009, Mariusz Fik scrisse:
I mean gstreammer backend. Xine rocks!+1
Btw, I don't want even pulse-audio in my KDE!
m3 installed from kde-live cd. Crappy sound at login/logout, few kmix
crash.
Well, as usually all fixed after switching to xine and removed all
pulseaudio related packages..
I don't have Factory installed, but there are some thing that should be defined:
- About GStreamer by itself:
In KDE3 gstreamer was certainly bad. Each app had to implement it
separately and the time KDE3 apps started implementing gstreamer
backends coincided with the 0.8 -> 0.10 API change.
Now there is only a point where Gstreamer needs to be implemented:
Phonon. Since Gnome guys seem to be happy with GStreamer I suppose any
problem isn't in GStreamer itself but in its Phonon backend, that
should be fixed. I would argue that GStreamer is preferable if only
because of multimedia support uniformity between desktops. That's
supposing there isn't any valid point in favor of xine over gstreamer
(is gstreamer still unable to play DVDs with menus?).
- About PulseAudio:
Should I understand that the default GStreamer audio output is
PulseAudio? Is the audio output of Phonon dependent of the backend? If
using the GStreamer Phonon backend means using the GStreamer selected
audio output and that's PulseAudio then we have a coherency problem.
It's my understanding that in 11.2 ALSA still outputs directly to the
hardware, that only uses the pulse plugin through a patch in the gnome
executable. So, if for KDE we are configuring ALSA to not use PA but
we are configuring Phonon to use GStreamer (that uses PA) we should
change something... when in KDE, PA could be used or not, but
shouldn't be used in Phonon apps and not used in everything else.
That said... it's my understanding that Phonon selects the audio
output independently of the backend. But without a Factory
installation I can't really say anything for sure.
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