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[opensuse-factory] KDE43 Desktop Effects - Need Usable "Next" and "Previous" Desktop key defaults
- From: "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:30:45 -0500
- Message-id: <200906040030.45756.drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Listmates,
A Couple of issues for kde43B1 today. (First KDE43 - Rocks!) I never
thought
I would type those words....
First issue, the "Next" and "Previous" desktop keyboard shortcuts are
not
defined. There should be a consistent default for users regardless of whether
the wm is kwin or compiz. Defining ctrl+alt+left for previous and
ctrl+alt+right under global shortcuts -> kwin works fine. (I'll reference
ctrl+alt as CA hereafter)
Next, the ctrl+f1 -f4 shortcuts for desktop 1-4 are horribly
inefficient due
to the left ctrl being at the absolute bottom of the keyboard while the F'keys
are at the absolute top. This eliminates the chance of an efficient switch
without having to reposition your hands on the keyboard and then reset after
the key combo is entered. Even using the right ctrl (which many laptops do not
have) requires a stretch with the left hand to reach the F'keys. If the
CA+left and CA+right are defined for the 'previous' and 'next', that takes
care of the problem, but if anyone can suggest another scheme for desktops
1-4, it would really help get rid of some keyboard inefficiency.
On the same topic of desktop cube rotate efficiency, what is the mouse
rotate
activation sequence? The CA+leftmouse that compiz uses is great. ctrl (left
pinky) + alt (left thumb) and leftmouse with the right hand feels natural by
now. Where can we set this in 43? If we can't set it, then that is something
to add. If we are consistent across the WM's then a whole lot of confusion can
be avoided and the learning curve cut in half.
Next (a polish [not Polish]) issue. The animation in all the effects
seems
rigid or jerky compared to the similar compiz effects. "Cover Switch", "Flip
Switch", etc. just seem to jump to the next item without a smooth transition.
Adjusting animation duration seems to have little or no effect. Is there
something that can be done here?
The "Present Windows" (compiz scale clone) randomly thumbnails the
window
representations on the desktop seemingly without any rhyme or reason (no
alignment, etc..). Can this be updates to work more like its compiz
counterpart where you get 1, 2 or 3 "rows" (as needed) of windows of similar
size (unless they are just really small windows to begin with)? It looks
visually a whole lot better than a hodgepodge or smattering of different sized
windows on the desktop.
Also on wobbly windows, the current "advanced" adjustments make no
sense.
Wobbly is basically set up as a spring and mass damper. The relevant constants
are the (1) the spring constant (or stiffness) [ that one is right ] (2)
damping (or friction) and (3) mass (applied force, tension or displacement).
"Wobbliness, "drag" and "move factor" are horribly confusing and just make no
technical sense. From working with all of them for a while it seems that the
settings are actually fighting each other (like a double-double negative) Here
again, being consistent with compiz (where they got the spring constant
"Spring K" and friction right) would be a plus.
Lastly, with compiz active and kicker set to auto-hide, kicker seems to
die
and restart continually. (It may not actually be dying, but you can't get it
to unhide a majority of the time) With compiz running, the only way I can get
kicker to unhide is to first move the cursor against the left side of the
desktop and then moving the cursor straight down the left edge to the bottom.
Moving the cursor to the bottom edge anywhere else does nothing.
That's all that I have had time to test so far... Looking great!
P.S. The Obsidian Coast theme rocks!
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com
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A Couple of issues for kde43B1 today. (First KDE43 - Rocks!) I never
thought
I would type those words....
First issue, the "Next" and "Previous" desktop keyboard shortcuts are
not
defined. There should be a consistent default for users regardless of whether
the wm is kwin or compiz. Defining ctrl+alt+left for previous and
ctrl+alt+right under global shortcuts -> kwin works fine. (I'll reference
ctrl+alt as CA hereafter)
Next, the ctrl+f1 -f4 shortcuts for desktop 1-4 are horribly
inefficient due
to the left ctrl being at the absolute bottom of the keyboard while the F'keys
are at the absolute top. This eliminates the chance of an efficient switch
without having to reposition your hands on the keyboard and then reset after
the key combo is entered. Even using the right ctrl (which many laptops do not
have) requires a stretch with the left hand to reach the F'keys. If the
CA+left and CA+right are defined for the 'previous' and 'next', that takes
care of the problem, but if anyone can suggest another scheme for desktops
1-4, it would really help get rid of some keyboard inefficiency.
On the same topic of desktop cube rotate efficiency, what is the mouse
rotate
activation sequence? The CA+leftmouse that compiz uses is great. ctrl (left
pinky) + alt (left thumb) and leftmouse with the right hand feels natural by
now. Where can we set this in 43? If we can't set it, then that is something
to add. If we are consistent across the WM's then a whole lot of confusion can
be avoided and the learning curve cut in half.
Next (a polish [not Polish]) issue. The animation in all the effects
seems
rigid or jerky compared to the similar compiz effects. "Cover Switch", "Flip
Switch", etc. just seem to jump to the next item without a smooth transition.
Adjusting animation duration seems to have little or no effect. Is there
something that can be done here?
The "Present Windows" (compiz scale clone) randomly thumbnails the
window
representations on the desktop seemingly without any rhyme or reason (no
alignment, etc..). Can this be updates to work more like its compiz
counterpart where you get 1, 2 or 3 "rows" (as needed) of windows of similar
size (unless they are just really small windows to begin with)? It looks
visually a whole lot better than a hodgepodge or smattering of different sized
windows on the desktop.
Also on wobbly windows, the current "advanced" adjustments make no
sense.
Wobbly is basically set up as a spring and mass damper. The relevant constants
are the (1) the spring constant (or stiffness) [ that one is right ] (2)
damping (or friction) and (3) mass (applied force, tension or displacement).
"Wobbliness, "drag" and "move factor" are horribly confusing and just make no
technical sense. From working with all of them for a while it seems that the
settings are actually fighting each other (like a double-double negative) Here
again, being consistent with compiz (where they got the spring constant
"Spring K" and friction right) would be a plus.
Lastly, with compiz active and kicker set to auto-hide, kicker seems to
die
and restart continually. (It may not actually be dying, but you can't get it
to unhide a majority of the time) With compiz running, the only way I can get
kicker to unhide is to first move the cursor against the left side of the
desktop and then moving the cursor straight down the left edge to the bottom.
Moving the cursor to the bottom edge anywhere else does nothing.
That's all that I have had time to test so far... Looking great!
P.S. The Obsidian Coast theme rocks!
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com
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