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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: What should be on the DVD and what's fine online only?
  • From: "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <zznmeb@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:36:39 -0700
  • Message-id: <af0420cd0906031236s5350f07akd660f342e0fbe2b4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
A lot of the packages in the "Technical Documentation" pattern use
parts of the LaTeX toolchain. You might have to remove that whole
pattern. I use LyX and its dependencies, but not much of the other
stuff.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

As texlive was updated vom 2007 to 2008 in factory, it also grew from
159MB to 266MB and that made the milestone2 DVDs exceed the limits you
can burn on DVD.

I made a quick hack and removed qt4 documentation, which is also impressive
90MB. Werner says that texlive upstream doesn't see the problem and doesn't
provide a good way to split (it's own distribution is a DVD or 2 CDs). And
there is our problem: With every release it eats more and more of the openSUSE
DVDs and I'm afraid it exceeded a sane limit - as it's far from mainstream
I would remove it.

I know how many use texlive and I don't talk about dropping it out of the
distribution, but I can't hold it on DVD unless I drop several other packages.

To give you an impression let me give you a list of packages on build112 DVD
sorted by size:

266M noarch/texlive-2008-5.1.noarch.rpm
 83M noarch/libqt4-devel-doc-data-4.5.1-1.1.noarch.rpm
 72M noarch/kernel-source-2.6.30-4.1.noarch.rpm
 32M x86_64/koffice-illustration-1.6.3-214.26.x86_64.rpm
 27M x86_64/java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-1.2.x86_64.rpm
 26M noarch/opensuse-manual_de-11.1-2.21.noarch.rpm
 25M x86_64/kdebase3-3.5.10-22.12.x86_64.rpm
 25M noarch/efont-unicode-0.4.2-215.37.noarch.rpm
 25M noarch/OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-1.78.noarch.rpm
 24M noarch/xorg-x11-fonts-7.4-1.79.noarch.rpm
 23M x86_64/kdebase4-workspace-4.2.85-1.3.x86_64.rpm
 22M noarch/CID-keyed-fonts-MOE-20021114-339.17.noarch.rpm
 21M noarch/opensuse-manual_en-11.1-29.17.noarch.rpm
 20M x86_64/frozen-bubble-2.2.0rc1-1.46.x86_64.rpm
 20M noarch/xemacs-packages-20070427-155.76.noarch.rpm
 19M noarch/OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm
 19M x86_64/samba-client-3.3.4-1.1.x86_64.rpm
 18M noarch/OpenOffice_org-help-ja-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm
 18M noarch/kde4-l10n-sv-doc-4.2.85-1.1.noarch.rpm

I now removed the second largest package so it fits for the moment, but I
don't feel that's justified. But perhaps I'm wrong. So let's discuss what
the DVDs should be optimized for.

Greetings, Stephan
P.S. If you want to discuss packages that are currently not on DVD and should
be there, feel free to do so if you start your post with "XX should go" as
long as XX is part of the above list.

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