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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: What should be on the DVD and what's fine online only?
  • From: Boyd Lynn Gerber <gerberb@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:41:48 -0600
  • Message-id: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0906021037150.7895@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Freitag 29 Mai 2009 schrieb Boyd Lynn Gerber:
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Dienstag 26 Mai 2009 schrieb Randall R Schulz:
Anyway, Internet-based video delivery is becoming a reality. If the
networking providers will get off their bums and start providing true
high-speed Internet to the home, this will be no different than
downloading a DVD is for someone with today's "high-speed" Internet.

Why would someone who uses internet based video delivery download a 25GB
medium with 90% software he never uses and wait for the download to
finish to start installation if he can do a network installation right
away and only download what he needs in the same video delivery speed?

I download the entire ftp every OS release. I installed 80 machine in the
first 48 hours after the release. It would have been next to impossible
to do them without my entire Download. I created 15 mirrors of my ftp to
do all the installs. I purcashed the 2 DVD boxed set. I was really
hoping it would continue. I often have clients that do not have the
internet acccess to do the installs. Having the 2 DVD made my life a lot
easier. I had my clients purcashing them to do the installs.

I really do not understand the attitude of why... Then you ased about the
250 GB. Well, I have the complete packman, openSUSE and sync daily my 250
GB GB SUSE stuff. So this attitude really upsets me. There are those of
us who attempt to make a living spreading the word and do infact have the
complete available download. I was doing it on my 1.5/1.o link. I was
really glad when I finally got a 4.0 MD download DSL. Currently I have
both DSK and Cable to be able to get everything in a more timely fashion.
Some of use can not afford large downloads. We never know what our
clients are going to nedd. So having it all makes our lives a lot easier.

You're slightly offtopic. This subthread is about blu-ray and people using
internet-base video delivery. I think your use case is very clear and has
nothing to do with the discussed.

I think blu-ray would enable us that do a lot of installs to use them. After all blu-ray does hold a lot more. It would/could be used to install the many various different installs that need just a few of the files, but are so different for each installation.

We could possible offer all of 11.2 tree as installation DVDs by means of
torrents. I haven't yet looked into it, but I think it should be possible,
unfortunately it wouldn't be addon DVDs, but a complete new set. So you would
need to choose if you download the normal installation DVD or the offline ftp
tree.

Having the ability to have everything available via DVD/blu-ray could really assist us that have to support/install the miriad of people/businesses getting to know SUSE using openSUSE to convert them to Linux/SLES/SLED.

Thanks,

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