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Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: What should be on the DVD and what's fine online only?
- From: Hans Witvliet <hwit@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:47:26 +0200
- Message-id: <1243925247.12575.5.camel@t43>
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 00:08 -0400, Richard wrote:
<snip>
some of the 'latest and greatest' gee-whiz abilities, but in the long run, the
money is in the flexibility SuSE (openSuSE) has historically offered coupled
with a solid and wide operational base with good support from the community as
well as the corporation. You start taking away any of those things, and
people will migrate to the niche distros like Ubuntu or Puppy or Damm Small or
'name your favorite' because without the wide spread support SuSE offers in
terms of equipment and flexibility in install options (and untill recently,
reliability), people will just install the one they have heard will work on
their 'brand' or just stick with Redmond because it mostly works and came on
the machine anyway even though it made the machine cost more.
Dual-layer single architecture would solve most problems, but it means
one for 686, x86_64, ppc ...
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Well, after installation, I too do that only AFTER enabling the IMAGE of theDs are OK for demonstrations, the basis of 'repair' systems, and showcasing
DVD as my base repo which gets used unless newer versions are available in
the online OSS/nonOSS/update repos. So, I don't use the DVD AFTER
installation, but I do use the *image* as a primary source. I suspect there
are many others that do the same and have the original for 'spreading the
word' to others without requiring additional downloads and reducing overall
download bandwidths even given the many updates that need to be downloaded
later in the product life. Also, having a relatively complete installation
DVD allows for relatively complete and flexible installations even in remote
or secure/sensitive locations where internet is not readily available or
desireable. I think that if Novell wants to go out of the Open Source
Software (SuSE Linux) business, one way to do it would be to offer ONLY
LiveCD with Network installation for upgrade/modifications from the LiveCD
template. LiveC
some of the 'latest and greatest' gee-whiz abilities, but in the long run, the
money is in the flexibility SuSE (openSuSE) has historically offered coupled
with a solid and wide operational base with good support from the community as
well as the corporation. You start taking away any of those things, and
people will migrate to the niche distros like Ubuntu or Puppy or Damm Small or
'name your favorite' because without the wide spread support SuSE offers in
terms of equipment and flexibility in install options (and untill recently,
reliability), people will just install the one they have heard will work on
their 'brand' or just stick with Redmond because it mostly works and came on
the machine anyway even though it made the machine cost more.
No, I think putting as much as will fit with as many USEFUL software as can
be crammed onto the DVD is a better option.
I also think a DUAL LAYER DVD IMAGE should be made available for download.
Dual-layer single architecture would solve most problems, but it means
one for 686, x86_64, ppc ...
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