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[opensuse-factory] RFC: What should be on the DVD and what's fine online only?
- From: Stephan Kulow <coolo@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:13:44 +0200
- Message-id: <200905261413.45571.coolo@xxxxxxxxxx>
Hi,
As texlive was updated vom 2007 to 2008 in factory, it also grew from
159MB to 266MB and that made the milestone2 DVDs exceed the limits you
can burn on DVD.
I made a quick hack and removed qt4 documentation, which is also impressive
90MB. Werner says that texlive upstream doesn't see the problem and doesn't
provide a good way to split (it's own distribution is a DVD or 2 CDs). And
there is our problem: With every release it eats more and more of the openSUSE
DVDs and I'm afraid it exceeded a sane limit - as it's far from mainstream
I would remove it.
I know how many use texlive and I don't talk about dropping it out of the
distribution, but I can't hold it on DVD unless I drop several other packages.
To give you an impression let me give you a list of packages on build112 DVD
sorted by size:
266M noarch/texlive-2008-5.1.noarch.rpm
83M noarch/libqt4-devel-doc-data-4.5.1-1.1.noarch.rpm
72M noarch/kernel-source-2.6.30-4.1.noarch.rpm
32M x86_64/koffice-illustration-1.6.3-214.26.x86_64.rpm
27M x86_64/java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-1.2.x86_64.rpm
26M noarch/opensuse-manual_de-11.1-2.21.noarch.rpm
25M x86_64/kdebase3-3.5.10-22.12.x86_64.rpm
25M noarch/efont-unicode-0.4.2-215.37.noarch.rpm
25M noarch/OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-1.78.noarch.rpm
24M noarch/xorg-x11-fonts-7.4-1.79.noarch.rpm
23M x86_64/kdebase4-workspace-4.2.85-1.3.x86_64.rpm
22M noarch/CID-keyed-fonts-MOE-20021114-339.17.noarch.rpm
21M noarch/opensuse-manual_en-11.1-29.17.noarch.rpm
20M x86_64/frozen-bubble-2.2.0rc1-1.46.x86_64.rpm
20M noarch/xemacs-packages-20070427-155.76.noarch.rpm
19M noarch/OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm
19M x86_64/samba-client-3.3.4-1.1.x86_64.rpm
18M noarch/OpenOffice_org-help-ja-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm
18M noarch/kde4-l10n-sv-doc-4.2.85-1.1.noarch.rpm
I now removed the second largest package so it fits for the moment, but I
don't feel that's justified. But perhaps I'm wrong. So let's discuss what
the DVDs should be optimized for.
Greetings, Stephan
P.S. If you want to discuss packages that are currently not on DVD and should
be there, feel free to do so if you start your post with "XX should go" as
long as XX is part of the above list.
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As texlive was updated vom 2007 to 2008 in factory, it also grew from
159MB to 266MB and that made the milestone2 DVDs exceed the limits you
can burn on DVD.
I made a quick hack and removed qt4 documentation, which is also impressive
90MB. Werner says that texlive upstream doesn't see the problem and doesn't
provide a good way to split (it's own distribution is a DVD or 2 CDs). And
there is our problem: With every release it eats more and more of the openSUSE
DVDs and I'm afraid it exceeded a sane limit - as it's far from mainstream
I would remove it.
I know how many use texlive and I don't talk about dropping it out of the
distribution, but I can't hold it on DVD unless I drop several other packages.
To give you an impression let me give you a list of packages on build112 DVD
sorted by size:
266M noarch/texlive-2008-5.1.noarch.rpm
83M noarch/libqt4-devel-doc-data-4.5.1-1.1.noarch.rpm
72M noarch/kernel-source-2.6.30-4.1.noarch.rpm
32M x86_64/koffice-illustration-1.6.3-214.26.x86_64.rpm
27M x86_64/java-1_6_0-openjdk-1.6.0.0_b16-1.2.x86_64.rpm
26M noarch/opensuse-manual_de-11.1-2.21.noarch.rpm
25M x86_64/kdebase3-3.5.10-22.12.x86_64.rpm
25M noarch/efont-unicode-0.4.2-215.37.noarch.rpm
25M noarch/OpenOffice_org-templates-presentation-layouts-3.0-1.78.noarch.rpm
24M noarch/xorg-x11-fonts-7.4-1.79.noarch.rpm
23M x86_64/kdebase4-workspace-4.2.85-1.3.x86_64.rpm
22M noarch/CID-keyed-fonts-MOE-20021114-339.17.noarch.rpm
21M noarch/opensuse-manual_en-11.1-29.17.noarch.rpm
20M x86_64/frozen-bubble-2.2.0rc1-1.46.x86_64.rpm
20M noarch/xemacs-packages-20070427-155.76.noarch.rpm
19M noarch/OpenOffice_org-icon-themes-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm
19M x86_64/samba-client-3.3.4-1.1.x86_64.rpm
18M noarch/OpenOffice_org-help-ja-3.1.0.2-1.1.noarch.rpm
18M noarch/kde4-l10n-sv-doc-4.2.85-1.1.noarch.rpm
I now removed the second largest package so it fits for the moment, but I
don't feel that's justified. But perhaps I'm wrong. So let's discuss what
the DVDs should be optimized for.
Greetings, Stephan
P.S. If you want to discuss packages that are currently not on DVD and should
be there, feel free to do so if you start your post with "XX should go" as
long as XX is part of the above list.
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