hi there, just came across http://news.opensuse.org/2009/05/01/opensuse-111-kde4-reloaded-includes-kde-... which is basically a nice thing to get, similar to the debian Rx re-releases of their current main releases. is there any place to discuss these efforts of re-releasing or re-building current opensuse versions to include less-faulty packages? do we have a separate mailinglist, forum or anything? i would like to ask for more of these re-releases or how-to, documentation and the like on how to re-create installation cd and dvd media with the most current packages? the main problem for me is that i cannot use the most current version of the opensuse distribution obviously because of stability and bug reasons, but when re-installing or creating another system with the last stable version (current-1) then i am basically facing the same problems but on the older version as all the bug-fixes and patches that got released ever since are not included in the install media of that older build. basic idea is that the older version (current-1) is being worked on (patches/bug-fixes) for a longer time-frame than then current one so a re-build of the current-1 would likely to result in a better behaving system, both, better than the original current-1 (oldstable), and most likely also better (unknown bugs, new bugs yet to be discovered) than the stable (current) version. the main problem with releases for me is the installation time-frame when migration from even older to newer releases takes place, when systems need to get booted via the install media, need to check and recognize hardware, partitions and disks especially (raid setup and all that fancy stuff, but even standard things go awry and haywire all the time. once a system is up and running (booting and network accessible) i can most of the times make things work either from remote (ssh) or direct access. but the install and upgrade time-frame is most crucial to me. so i really do like this idea of getting newly built iso images to install from especially when they truly incorporate (didnt try this 11.1 reloaded yet) all those yast2, satsolver, kernel and related updates and patches. can we get more of this please, or some automated versions from the obs, or officially supported and acknowledged re-releases from the opensuse team? thanks for any comments. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org