Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (422 mails)

[Basil Chupin <blchupin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
> On Štvrtok 29 Január 2009 08:47:49 Basil Chupin wrote:
>   
> > Space Case wrote:
> >     
> > > On Jan 28,  1:34pm, Daniel Fuhrmann wrote:
> > > } Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] The frustration of updating
> > >
> > >       
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 28. Januar 2009 11:14:54 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
> > > >         
> > > > > you really know how to comfort :)
> > > > >           
> > > > Sorry :(
> > > >
> > > > There are only few who complain about inconsistent updates because of
> > > > timeout.
> > > >         
> > > Just to jump on the dogpile here...  I have over 9400 packages on my
> > > system.  A major update will refresh nearly half of those, and I end up
> > > downloading about 4GB.  Fortunately, major updates happen at most once a
> > > week.  Though I'm on cable, it still takes 8-10 hours to do all the
> > > downloads, and I frequently find that things have changed in the meantime
> > > (sometimes even when I'm only updating several hundred packages).
> > >
> > > I use a package manager that downloads everything before installing
> > > (smart).  When it didn't get all the packages because they've changed,
> > > it's a simple matter to rescan the repositories, redo the update list,
> > > then start the downloads again.
> > >       
> > Which is why I have been using smart for some time - and today installed
> > it on my "working" system (and the first thing it did was find more
> > updates which the default openSUSE showed weren't in existence).
> >
> > But before I did this this morning I started an update of 11.1 (with
> > KDE4.2) using zypper.
> >
> > Some 15 minutes after I did this I had to go out to do some shopping
> > with my wife and when I came back I found that zypper had been sitting
> > for an hour or so waiting for a manual input from me to confirm that
> > that an Error had occurred and then an input from me about I wanted to
> > do about the error.
> >
> > Responding to the error message finally finished the download of the
> > rest of the RPMs (after some 30+ minutes).
> >
> > *ONE*, repeat *1*,  RPM from
> > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/....  held up the whole of the
> > download process in this update "cycle"!
> >
> > What a waste of damn time and resources!
> >
> > smart on the other hand simply downloads whatever RPM/s are downloadable
> > and if it/they are not downloadable smart skips it/them and continues
> > with downloading the rest. You then restart smart to download the missed
> > RPMs when, for example, you come back from shopping or wake up in the
> > morning and see that the task hasn't been completed.
> >     
>
> I've added your suggestion to feature 
> https://features.opensuse.org/305624
>
> Stano

Thank you.

I raised this issue some 3 years ago and got howled down because the
idea of doing what I suggested had no merit.

Ciao.


-- 
"I do not instruct the uninterested; I do not help those who fail to try. If I 
mention one corner of a subject and the pupil does not deduce therefrom the 
other three, I drop him."
                                              Confucius



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