Mailinglist Archive: opensuse-factory (422 mails)

[Dave Plater <dave.plater@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
> > > > On 1/29/2009 at 10:00 AM, Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke@xxxxxxx> wrote: 
> > > >         
> > But don't miss the major aspect he has pointed to:
> >
> > Waiting/stopping in the middle of the update process is bad design.
> >     
>
> No arguing there... but like you just did: it has to stay on topic, without 
> insults.
>
> On the other hand if an rpm can't be downloaded, I'm not sure if zypper 
> should just 'skip' this one, finish the rest of it's task and install what it
> downloaded. This could render your system very very unusable (think of 
> libzypp changing so version, thus a new zypper links against it. zypper is
> downloaded, libzypp fails. zypper being installed and libzypp skipped. you'll 
> not be able to start zypper anymore.).
>   
Whether it skips or aborts, there are still packages that have already
been installed or removed and that is enough to cause system problems so
you may as well complete the download and save time. See
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=379480 and
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431854 although the first
bug is not really relevant and the second one is for yast they are both
examples of why download first and install on completion is the way to
go and the developers are already working on it for 11.2 I believe.
Regards
Dave P
> So at best the 'remainings' can be tried to be downloaded, but I would for 
> sure not like the PM trying to install the packages which could be
> downloaded. Sure, make the PM very smart to skip a whole bunch of packages 
> that depend on each other. Which would in fact mean that after every
> skipped package you have to run the solver. which might be as broken an idea 
> as nothing else: repodata might have changed on the server. New conflicts
> appear, existing conflicts that were solved by the user invalidated.... you 
> name them.
>
> I think the approach with more potential that was mentioned in the list is in 
> fact to find a solution to keep packages that get replaced for 24 hours
> longer on the mirror. This would help against change of repodata in the 
> middle. 
>
> Dominique
>   


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